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    Martial Arts bibles

    Hey. Okay, the main reason I signed up to this forum is to learn, and I have a question that I want to draw on the obvious wealth of knowlege of the posters here.

    Basically, I want to know what you guys think about these martial arts bibles. Im sure youve all encountered them. Books that every martial artist has to have on their shelf.

    Books like:
    Sun Tzu - The Art of War
    Miyamoto Musashi - The book of five rings
    Bruce Lee - Tao of Jeet Kune Do

    Now, Of course these are important texts from a scholarly point of view, but is there any point for the average martial artist to read them? Like, would I have to sit down and spend countless hours decrypting ancient philosophical anecdotes and realise the only thing Ive gained from them is a greater understanding of time wasted, or could I actually read them and come away with legitimate concepts to explore in my training. And If so, what books should I read?

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    Best Judo.
    Aikido and the Dynamic Sphere.
    The Fighters Notebook.


    Those three served me very well in my early studies. I have shelves full of obscure and relatively uninfluential books. Both those 3 had a profound influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godhand88
    Hey. Okay, the main reason I signed up to this forum is to learn, and I have a question that I want to draw on the obvious wealth of knowlege of the posters here.

    Basically, I want to know what you guys think about these martial arts bibles. Im sure youve all encountered them. Books that every martial artist has to have on their shelf.

    Books like:
    Sun Tzu - The Art of War
    Miyamoto Musashi - The book of five rings
    Bruce Lee - Tao of Jeet Kune Do

    Now, Of course these are important texts from a scholarly point of view, but is there any point for the average martial artist to read them? Like, would I have to sit down and spend countless hours decrypting ancient philosophical anecdotes and realise the only thing Ive gained from them is a greater understanding of time wasted, or could I actually read them and come away with legitimate concepts to explore in my training. And If so, what books should I read?
    Your first two are philosophy books? Must read for average MA? No. The Tao of Jeet Kune Do is a bunch of personal notes, much like a notebook or diary, from a relatively advanced martial artist. Interesting to see where some of his ideas came from, but to de-construct you need to have a solid basis to begin with, so again, not a must have for an average martial artist. All three can come in later.

    With a screen name like Godhand, choose the appropriate books for your particular art(kyokushin?) Best Judo is awesome, but not great if you are in a striking art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godhand88
    Hey. Okay, the main reason I signed up to this forum is to learn, and I have a question that I want to draw on the obvious wealth of knowlege of the posters here.

    Basically, I want to know what you guys think about these martial arts bibles. Im sure youve all encountered them. Books that every martial artist has to have on their shelf.

    Books like:
    Sun Tzu - The Art of War
    Miyamoto Musashi - The book of five rings
    Bruce Lee - Tao of Jeet Kune Do

    Now, Of course these are important texts from a scholarly point of view, but is there any point for the average martial artist to read them? Like, would I have to sit down and spend countless hours decrypting ancient philosophical anecdotes and realise the only thing Ive gained from them is a greater understanding of time wasted, or could I actually read them and come away with legitimate concepts to explore in my training. And If so, what books should I read?
    Having read two of those three I would hardly find them NECESSARY for any martial artist to have. They do raise some nice points of interest, but personally I find books can never provide much more than a small supplement to live instruction.

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    As someone who majored in Philosophy with a concentration on East Asian Martial Philosophy, I would recommend...

    That you don't waste your time.

    Unless you are specifically interested in the thoughts of martial artists of the past or it has some bearing on your individual studies, there's not much point.

    That said...I had to read the following to graduate:

    Analects of Confuse-us
    The Diamond Sutra
    Chuang Tzu
    Go Rin no Sho
    Hagakure
    Sun Tzu
    Daodejing
    The Unfettered Mind

    I'm probably forgetting a few...

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    Porn mags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babo78
    Porn mags.
    Definitely.

    Right before practice.

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    I found aikido and the dynamic sphere to be a great book to read. Even if you dont train in aikido. The books you listed really have no martial instruction in them. I'd suggest books with instruction in them. Its not our job to be scholars, its our job to know the most effective way to put someone on their ass.

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    These i find to be essensials. And if nothing else, they are great books.

    The Unffetered Mind
    Living the Martial Way
    The Lone Samurai
    Invincible Warrior
    Remembering O'Sensei
    Japanese Swordfighting: The Secrets of the Samurai

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    I found remembering O'Sensei to be the most boring book I ever tried to read. It was like talking to my grandfather about the good old days.

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