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    this thread will explode, not becuase of a good question, but because a dumbass decided to ask a question. my theory on dumbasses make interesting threads is starting to solidify. just look how long da shredda's threads are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by broken fingers
    this thread will explode, not becuase of a good question, but because a dumbass decided to ask a question. my theory on dumbasses make interesting threads is starting to solidify. just look how long da shredda's threads are...

    Don't forget to look at yours either.

    So, I guess we finally agree on something.

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    If you look at the actual techniques of TKD and Kyokushin (for example), they are almost identical. Sure TKD has more spinning jumping kicks but other than that, KK also has axe kicks, spinning hook/back kicks, side kicks, etc. The difference between TKD and KK is in the training methods. If TKD started bareknuckle full contact competition, it would probably start to look like KK (or else no one would ever get knocked out).

    if you train any style in an extremely hardcore manner, you can probably make it work simply because all the crappy techniques of that style would not work and you'd have to modify them or get rid of them and find better ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Don't forget to look at yours either.

    So, I guess we finally agree on something.
    this is what i was going to eventually build up to. you stole my thunder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godhand88
    Okay, from what I have learnt, these are the styles that have been sucessful in MMA:
    Muay Thai
    BJJ
    Sport Sambo
    Wrestling
    Boxing
    Kickboxing
    Kykoshin Karate xtrained with boxing
    Shooto

    Now, every UFC, NHB, MMA fighter generally uses a mix of these styles. My point is, these styles are all sports, or sports oriented, which is perhaps why these styles lend themselves so well to the MMA format.
    Im not defending any art that claims that their style is "for the street, not the ring" and so refuse to be tested but I wonder, is much of the effectivness of these arts due more to their training methods than the superiority of technique?

    I supose a simple counter to this Idea is that Taekwondo is a sport based MA and still sucks balls. But TKD aside, cause its not even worth counting as an MA.
    You forgot Judo (*cough* Parisyan *cough* Yoshida *cough* quite a few in Pride *cough* you moron *cough*). Ergo, you suck. :angry4:

    Quote Originally Posted by Godhand88
    Let me pose the question another way: Could a more traditional art (perhaps a style of kung fu or Karate) be salvaged and used as an effective art if training methods were corrected?
    Omega is gonna love you for that.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

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    hey look, a cute kitten

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickZ
    hey look, a cute kitten

    Awwwwwwww!!!

    So cute!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickZ
    hey look, a cute kitten
    Awwwwwwww!!!

    So cute!!!
    *gay gasp* Ay, that is so cute!!!! I don't think I can run over a kitten with my car on Sunday mornings again.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

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    I love a girl who loves noodles.

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    that girl looks like she's 12.

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