4/18/2006 2:55pm, #31
Originally Posted by Garbanzo Bean
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4/18/2006 3:16pm, #32Dirty Rooster
I don't train any JJ, but during my own training the commonest way for me to intentionally takedown my opponent is to pick up one of his legs while shouldering forward to his midsection.
So, what's this called in BJJ ??:google:
Number of bottles of beer downed by me and my girlfriend within a half hour while playing the Channel 7 "how many times will they say 'snow' game" during the "Blizzard of '06": 3.5 each.
4/18/2006 5:52pm, #33Originally Posted by jnp
Does anyone here do Greco-Roman? There style of takedowns should be great because they focus on the upperbody. Ive heard there similar to judo takedowns but w/o the gi.
4/18/2006 6:21pm, #34
I didn't know anything about takedowns, but I've been working no-gi lately so I asked my folkstyle wrestling buddy to work takedowns with me.
He didn't show me any new takedowns, but he gave me a foundation in setting them up.
I found out that I like duck-unders because I am short (5' 7.5") and they're relatively low risk: when I try to duck-under and fail, people haven't really been able to counter effectively so far. Maybe this will change... any thoughts?
Also, we worked a drill for setting up those double and single legs well. Instead of trading takedowns and standing up again to continue, we just work for control and setups and then slap the leg(s). The assumption is that if I can slap your legs, I could have shot on them.
This was a valuable lesson in distancing for me - it made my double/single legs more effective because I was so close by the time I shot in. The next day I was taking down my usual training partner nearly at will and he kept telling me how fast I was... I'm wasn't any faster than the previous day, but I had better set up my shots.-Jordan
4/18/2006 6:24pm, #35
Duck unders are great but you have to make sure you have good control with it. I use them but if you mess up and dont control the arm your ducking under I think you could be easily caught in a guilitene. Any thoughts on that?
4/18/2006 6:33pm, #36Originally Posted by jnp
4/18/2006 6:34pm, #37
I've been having success with them [duck unders], but I have been trying to set them up well. Like my right arm on their neck, my left over their right arm... I twist his right arm down towards the mat and as he tries to regain his posture, that's when I duck under on his right. Pull him down, he tries to stand up, duck under.
Same idea as how I've been working my double legs... I pull his posture down with a grip on his neck, and when he tries to stand up, I just let him. That's when I shoot. He wants to stand up? Fine by me, that makes my job so much easier!
4/18/2006 7:24pm, #38Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
Another common mistake is not controlling your opponent to set up your shot. I sprawl and pancake people all the time because they shoot without the necessary measure of control when they take their shot. If you have good grips on my gi I should not be thinking about single or double legs anyway. Set up yor shot. I have always used the Judo concept of kuzushi (sp?) to set up my shots. I take my shot when he is off balance.Shut the hell up and train.
4/18/2006 7:32pm, #39Originally Posted by jnp
Another common mistake is not controlling your opponent to set up your shot. I sprawl and pancake people all the time because they shoot without the necessary measure of control when they take their shot. If you have good grips on my gi I should not be thinking about single or double legs anyway. Set up yor shot. I have always used the Judo concept of kuzushi (sp?) to set up my shots. I take my shot when he is off balance.
4/18/2006 7:45pm, #40