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    Valiant Monk of Booze & War

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     Style: BJJ/C-JKD/KAAALIII!!!!!!!

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    The martial arts that said they were about personal development, etc. were saying that years before the UFC came along.
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     Style: BJJ/C-JKD/KAAALIII!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    In bad Japanese.

    No, that's "RARARARARARARARARARARA! I NO SPEAK ENGRISH!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    No, that's "RARARARARARARARARARARA! I NO SPEAK ENGRISH!"
    "Alroit class, toime to warm up. Ichee, nee, sann, shoi, goew, rewk, sichee, hachee, kiew, jiew. That's it, noice, noice. Get that kee in ya."
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     Style: BJJ/C-JKD/KAAALIII!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    "Alroit class, toime to warm up. Ichee, nee, sann, shoi, goew, rewk, sichee, hachee, kiew, jiew. That's it, noice, noice. Get that kee in ya."
    That's almost as bad as having an Irishman lead TKD warm ups.
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     Style: Kyokushin

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    Christ, at least most Irish guys and girls I know can land decent punches. Now this has got me thinking of Gaelic fighting styles.. what the hell?

    Back on track: I guess it comes down to the individuals, really. Some people would've thought "MY STYLE IS INVINCIBLE!" and some would've realised that if they only specialised in one area (standup, ground, whatever) then they were probably lacking in other areas, so they moved to fill the gaps by crosstraining. Anyone able to offer some stories so we can mull this over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakemaster
    Christ, at least most Irish guys and girls I know can land decent punches. Now this has got me thinking of Gaelic fighting styles.. what the hell?

    Back on track: I guess it comes down to the individuals, really. Some people would've thought "MY STYLE IS INVINCIBLE!" and some would've realised that if they only specialised in one area (standup, ground, whatever) then they were probably lacking in other areas, so they moved to fill the gaps by crosstraining. Anyone able to offer some stories so we can mull this over?
    I know some Irish TKD guys who are badass motherfuckers.

    But, like EternalRage put it.

    "It's not the fact that they train in the real Taekwondo. They could be Irish cheerleaders and still win barfights."
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     Style: Kyokushin

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    Good point. Would YOU laugh at a large, drunk, pissed off Irishman in a cheerleader's outfit? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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    It's pretty beat up, but it is a complete copy....

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     Style: EBMAS WT/ Latosa Concepts

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    Quote Originally Posted by broken fingers
    it is just that most real hardcore MA practicioner does not feel the need to show off their skill...
    This was and still is the attitude of TMA. It is not so much the "too deadly to spar" idea, but more of the realization that the best can always lose, as the differences are not that great between stlyles, and it is gonna be the best vs the best in the ring. There is no "ultimate" style that beats all others all the time. The Ring has this fallacy that if you lose, then the style sucks. If you win, it only proves that style won that one time. TMA was never about winning at sports but about personal growth, so having the chance of losing in the ring and tarnishing the style isn't worth the glory of a victory.

    Then there were all the sharlatans and con men that took advantage of the fact that there was no way to Test if a style could work or not. Ashida Kim got famous selling BOOKS remember...

    Anyway, its people that fight, not styles...

    You kids make me feel old!!! Before UFC, we also did not have DVD or Internet. Inside Kung Fu and Black Belt Mag where the source of debate, and the "letters to the Editor" was were "threads" like we have here could be found, via old fashion postage based mail. Palladin Press and mail order videos was the main way to expose yourself to what was out there. Sure there was Boxing and Kickboxing stuff on TV sometimes, and tournaments, but the information age had not kicked in yet. I think before my time people street fought more, but when I was in High School in the 1980's, gangs started having Gun Fights, so getting in fist fights at partys stopped being a good idea. I did see alot of real fist fights back then, some shottings and stabbings, so this was the context Martial arts compaired itself too, not Televised MMA.

    To get exposure you just had to go to the different schools and see what they had.

    UFC is a sport. When it came out, it put Martial Arts up to a higher caliber. Royce was highly trained in this sport and he destroyed any fool that tried to face him (until he whited out :-) ). While it showed the general TMA crowd that their skills needed work, it wasn't really fair. The Smarter TMA people realized that UFC was a sport they had not trained for and so they did not enter it. Now that its evolved into its own style, TMA people don't have a chance because it requires specific training for the specific rule sets. Its and apples vs oranges issue.

    Last, since the MMA sport reality wan't an issue, Martial arts back then was more about the traditions stuff, costumes, fancy weapons, meditation and ethics, honor, all that stuff. You got compaired to the Karate Kid back then, not Frank Shamrock.


    o ya, we did have WWF.
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    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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     Style: Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung
    "Alroit class, toime to warm up. Ichee, nee, sann, shoi, goew, rewk, sichee, hachee, kiew, jiew. That's it, noice, noice. Get that kee in ya."
    You haven't heard anything until you've heard the throws of the gokyo recited in a broad Yorkshire accent.

    Say after me: "oochey-maarter"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze
    You haven't heard anything until you've heard the throws of the gokyo recited in a broad Yorkshire accent.

    Say after me: "oochey-maarter"
    Should I imagine something like Ecky Thump, or is the Lancashire accent completely different altogether?
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