Legend has it that during at least one engagement in WWI Europe, the Germans mistook aimed fire from Enfield rifles for machine gun fire. I've never seen that confirmed, though.
Great rifle either way, though. Now that you have your Cruffler license, there are a lot more of them out there. The Yugoslavian SKS is everywhere now, and the Swiss K31's are fantastic. I picked one up as my first CRFFL purchase for $90, and it outshoots my modern rifles (which, to be fair, are not the top of the line.) The Swiss uses a round that's roughly equivalent to .308. Ammo is pricy, but you can handload for cheap.
I should point out that no major political party suggested this, and no bill was every introduced or even written. It was a suggestion by some British people not in charge of anything.
Originally Posted by Phrost
It's not as if the gun nut/survivalist/neocon crowd doesn't have plenty to flame us about already.
Last edited by PointyShinyBurn; 4/13/2006 7:26am at .
The overall standard of 'musketry' amongst British troops was pretty impressive, as it happens, but the tactics required for trench warfare meant mass fire wasn't that much use from the middle of the war onwards.
Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
But at least it was better than the early French method, which was fixing your bayonet and charging in come what may. (Which is one of the reasons why so many Savate professeurs bought it in the Great War. That said, the French really did have balls - believe it or not! - and won some major victories against The Hun, but only after they learned better tactics.)
Originally Posted by Truculent Sheep
Originally Posted by The Wikipedia Article you posted
- Kein Haar, is that the one that goes *PING* when you empty the mag?
Last edited by Neildo; 4/13/2006 2:13pm at .
The word "neocon" refers to liberals who lean towards conservative principles, not "ultra-conservative".
Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn
You're missing the point, dude. It's not that the SA80 is inaccurate or slow to reload, and the short size probably does make it practical in cramped quarters. The point is that it's unreliable.
Originally Posted by Neildo
And I think the Garand is the one that goes "ping".
Last edited by Mjelva; 4/13/2006 4:41pm at .
I thought the old ones were unrelaible, but the A2's are better.
Or do I fail at reading? wouldn't be the first time.....
You have to be wary of SA80 tests, especially if they're organised by the MoD. As this article indicates, many senior officers in the British military want it scrapped, but to do so would be politically embarrassing for the establishment and the British arms industry.
Originally Posted by Neildo
That said, the SA80 is very accurate, but only in pristine conditions (where there's no mud/****/sand/dust/sludge getting churned up in the background). Tellingly, the only country that the UK has successfully exported the SA80 to is, err, Mozambique. No one else wants to touch it.
The SAS and SBS, meanwhile, prefer the C7 rifle. Go moose-shaggers, go!
Thanks TS. That summed it up nicely.
Well, he IS very truculent.
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