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  1. Torakaka is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
    based on this video alone, i could think BJJ isn't as great as everyone here seems to say, and it looks as though the Japanese guy, who was much smaller than Royce, was able to hurt him by STRIKING.

    of course, all the BJJ "nutriders" will defend Gracie with their excuses(such as Royce is getting old). and that's fine. and in time, hopefully many of you will be enlightened with the fact that video clips showing Style A vs. Style B doesn't show everything, and that most of the time, its the practitioner who makes the difference, its the way the art has been trained, not the art itself. and also, a striker using "anti-grappling" and striking is just as legitimate as a grappler going for the takedown.

    ya know, most of the BJJphiles on here don't really care much for the gracies at all.

    ps, anti-grappling is actually just grappling.
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     Style: BJJ

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    owned? what fight were you watching. It was a pretty even match and was ruled a draw......[sigh] why bother?
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    It was a skiewed highlight, Royce won that fight... had it gone to decision that is.
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     Style: Mixed Martial Arts

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    I was trolling a little by saying BJJ sucks, I actually love BJJ. It rocks. I just think being strictly a BJJ-er and always just jumping guard and having no striking sucks in MMA.
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     Style: BJJ, Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by broken fingers
    I can't believe that someone who has been on this site since 2003 is still ignorant about BJJ. this is more of a ShreDda thing to do.
    Please die.
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     Style: MT, Submission Grappling

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    say whatever you want, you cannot succeed in mixed martial arts without some shoot wrestling/catch-as-catch-can/BJJ/Wrestling knowledge. It's not possible. Even if you just train how to get up and how to defend submissions, that's still learning grappling. After this long, people should finally know, there is no anti-grapple.
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     Style: TKD; BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If anyone needs proof about how shitty Royce's standup and takedowns are, this is the vid to watch. (or any Royce-Saku highlight obviously)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSamurai
    I was trolling a little by saying BJJ sucks, I actually love BJJ. It rocks. I just think being strictly a BJJ-er and always just jumping guard and having no striking sucks in MMA.
    There is something that tells me Royce was never and has never been a strictly, purely and solely a BJJ fighter... oh, **** it. Why bother.
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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    But if you guys want to see how much BJJ really sucks, I suggest watching Marcus Aurelio vs. Takanori Gomi. That fight alone should convince all the BJJ nutriders that they should just give up.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
    based on this video alone, i could think BJJ isn't as great as everyone here seems to say, and it looks as though the Japanese guy, who was much smaller than Royce, was able to hurt him by STRIKING.

    of course, all the BJJ "nutriders" will defend Gracie with their excuses(such as Royce is getting old). and that's fine. and in time, hopefully many of you will be enlightened with the fact that video clips showing Style A vs. Style B doesn't show everything, and that most of the time, its the practitioner who makes the difference, its the way the art has been trained, not the art itself. and also, a striker using "anti-grappling" and striking is just as legitimate as a grappler going for the takedown.
    Why is it that the "martial arts are all equal" retards always seem to get tricked into making posts like this on troll threads?
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