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  1. Pandinha is offline

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    The Springfield XD - Why it rocks hard

    http://springfield-armory.primediaou...SPstory11.html

    They did everything GLOCK did for their torture test, replicated it to ta tee...

    AFTER THEY PUT 17,500 rounds through it first!

    Fucking awesome read, why the XD's are making up ground on the GLOCKS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    What's the monetary damage on that thing compared with my beloved Glock? If SA is smart they'll undercut the competition. That thing is so Glocky that a Glock vs. SA lawsuit wouldn't surprise me.

    Or a Glock vs. SA firefight...
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    XD's are cheaper I thought.
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    XD's are cheaper, and there are way more differences between GLOCKS and XD's. Alot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    Such as?
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    An XD vs. Glock comparo would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    http://springfield-armory.primediaou...SPstory11.html

    They did everything GLOCK did for their torture test, replicated it to ta tee...

    AFTER THEY PUT 17,500 rounds through it first!
    How many rounds are guns supposed to last for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    An XD vs. Glock comparo would be awesome.
    Okay, how do I get to where you're at?
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    Not an XD expert, just off the top of my head:

    --The striker system is slightly different.
    --The XD has a grip safety along the lines of the 1911 pattern. It won't go bang unless the grip safety on the backstrap is being pressed into the grip (usually this means that if you snag the trigger on something without first acquiring a firing grip, it won't go bang.)
    --Ergonomics of the 9mm version are very different from the Glock--reminded me more of a Hi-Power or a CZ-75 than anything. I've heard the .45 feels chunky compared to the 9mm/.40 XD, but that's to be expected. The question is, how does it feel compared to my Glock 30? I suspect it will be more comfortable for me.
    --If I recall correctly, the XD's don't just resemble SIG slides cosmetically--they accept sights designed for the SIG models.


    The 9mm XD's can accept Beretta 92 magazines, which is not really an advantage anymore but did two nice things when they were first introduced:

    1. Most new guns have a long period where all the aftermarket manufacturers kind of feel out the interest--are people going to buy these things or not?
    That means it takes awhile before people offer sights, leather, etc. The XD didn't have that problem because it could use sights and hi-cap mags already on the market.

    2. At the time, the "Assault Weapons Ban" was still in effect, so it would have been illegal to manufacture new full-capacity magazines for the XD. The ban did allow citizens to own and use magazines made before the ban, however, so if you didn't want to be stuck with 10-round cripples, you could make a simple modification to Beretta full-caps and have as many as you want. I believe the Beretta mags were even cheaper than Glock pre-ban full-caps (which were ridiculously expensive back then--a standard 9mm full-cap Glock mag worth maybe $10-$30 went for $130 for a long time, and people paid it.)

    Even now, this is a nice feature, because although Springfield or the Croatians are now allowed to make as many new civilian-legal full-caps as they want, it's nice to know that if they have production problems or stop producing the pistol, the mags will still be around.


    If there were going to be a Glock lawsuit, you'd have seen it by now. The XD is no longer a new weapon. It was introduced by the Croatian company that created it in 2000 or so (I think) at least in the U.S. They were called HS Arms and the pistol was then called the "HS2000." At that time they were breaking in by selling the 9mm version for $200, and I did not purchase it because I am stupid. When Springfield became the U.S. distributor and put their name on it, the price went up, but a lot of Americans felt better with Springfield and their warranty in the game.



    I'm thinking very seriously of trying to trade my Glock 30 for one of these. I don't really have to have something as small as the 30 most of the time, and if the XD feels as good as my SIG. . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFGOON
    Okay, how do I get to where you're at?
    You're just up the proverbial street. Come over for the KC Throwdown.
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