4/07/2006 10:46pm, #41
did you also keep in mind that Leung Ting had "journalists" sent to do a photo shoot with Cheung in traditional clothing, including the kung fu slippers, making Cheung change his normal clothing before the seminar started? those slippers made him slip on the floor. before you dismiss it as a lame excuse, obviously if they went through the trouble of setting that up, they knew to take advantage of it.
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Wait. 'Kung Fu' slippers? The Chinese practically invented polished hardwood floors, you'd think they'd choose to practice in something more practical.
whatever Cheung did while on the ground was for defensive purposes. it was his first time in Germany, he was in the middle of a seminar, and he wasn't trying to hurt Boztepe and get into trouble where apparently you're arrested first and questions are asked later(as he was told). it was an awkward situation.
and for a forum that's all about exposing "bullshido" because apparently you all know what a real fight is like, you think you can make any determination from that clip? the reason they didn't do the high and mighty grappling is because that's not what they do. how can you hold them accountable for not taking the mount and performing arm bars, etc., if that's not what they wanted to do in the first place?
And they were grappling, they were just **** at it.
but maybe my explanation isn't good enough
i will defend my art
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4/07/2006 11:03pm, #42Originally Posted by Lu Tze
Again, if you're a great master of a style, but you don't look like a master of that style when you actually fight, what is the point in mastering it? Of course, there are other reasons for learning a Chinese art, but we're not arguing about those - we're arguing about Cheung fighting.
4/07/2006 11:58pm, #43
Originally Posted by Lu Tze
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i don't see an elbow. i looked and looked, and maybe i looked at the wrong part of the screen, but something that is very common knowledge is that Boztepe edited the video for his own purposes, and that there are different versions of the video available on the internet. how anyone can come to any decisive conclusions about Cheung's fighting ability from this video is beyond me.
you consider that a "real fight?" i wish all fights were like that; it would be nice if they never went beyond the playground level and no one would get seriously hurt. but in the real world, "real fights" usually do a lot more damage. but all we have here is a guy setting up Cheung, putting him in a very awkward situation, slugging at him for about 10 seconds, doing absolutely no damage, then getting up and running away. we spar harder than that at my school. too bad you're not from my area. i hope to meet others here who are.
4/08/2006 12:02am, #44
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4/08/2006 12:08am, #45Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
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4/08/2006 12:30am, #46Originally Posted by JKDChick"No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
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4/08/2006 1:28am, #50Originally Posted by GoldenJonas
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While technical skill and constant practice are essential, there are no easy rules or traditional formulas for truthful art, for truth is living and, therefore, changing. [ ] When you see that, you will understand that this living thing is what you are.