Ha, good redirect to THE MARTIALIST:owneddanc
Fairly well written...except for the "roof-top battles" thing. I'm intrigued, to bad I'm about 1300 miles south of NJ or I would happily go to a class.
Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
If he is seriously looking at Wing Chun, I doubt that he can spell without the help of his government appointed aid worker.
Originally Posted by GoldenJonas
Last edited by Coyote; 4/07/2006 4:45pm at .
I'm sorry, but you're either blind or are deliberately misrepresnting this clip.
Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
Cheung wasn't taken by suprise, at the start of the video both fighters are clinched, this is a pretty even start in my book.
And he certainly was trying to fight back, at approx 2 seconds in he attempts to straight knee Boztepe, in fact it's the reason he was taken down. Why would such an experienced fighter put himself in such a vulnerable position as having one foot on the floor if he was just trying to defend? He also tries to kick Boztepe in the knee from the ground as the clip closes.
As for their grappling, it was pathetic on both sides, so no wonder no effective blows were struck. Both fighters had ample chance to improve their position and didn't take them. Boztepe also had several opportunities to arm lock Cheung, effectively ending the fight (but they don't train that gay grappling stuff hey).
No, I'd never heard of either of these guys before reading bullshido. I have no agenda, I just call what I see, and what I see here are two 'masters', people who've dedicated their lives to a combat art, fighting like children in a playground.
but i know most of you want to have a much more critical conclusion from this video because you don't like or respect Cheung for whatever reason.
Maybe my opinion would change with more background info and the full clip, but you've provided nothing more convincing than hearsay in the face of video evidence.
these 2 vids make wing chun seem relevent,do they not?
so whats the problem? i think its just hate for no reason
its like people saying "ps3 is gonna own xbix 360!"
buncha fanboys in here ,i asked honest questions
You low reading comprehension ************ JNP told you to read these threads now read them.
Originally Posted by jnp
I thought I told you to die.
First vid: Jacky Chan freely admits to not being a martial artist, just a stunt man /actor. He is demonstration impressive coordination but that doesn’t make it combat applicable. Argo that video makes no comment in regards to the combat effectiveness of –ing –un.
Second vid: why is the guy in white moving so slowly. Even if the argument is that the red guy can move so much faster it still doesn’t apply to the combat effectiveness of the art. All it shows is that one guy is a lot quicker than the other guy.
There’s a reason we tend to dump on –ing –un. Every two weeks or so someone shows up and tries to educate us to how wrong we are, to date not one of them have shown a vid that was not obviously faked. They get frustrated when we don’t accept **** like this
as absolute truth. (notice how he bent down for the shoot, and went limp at the first punch.)
this is more like reality http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/sho...to/536/cat/523
The "Crazy Wing Chun Guy" had people attacking him without commitment, and didnt land any hard hits
Jackie Chan does Peking Opera, although I still say in comparison of both videos that the conditioning of the Peking Opera could probably allow the opera actor to kick the Wing Chun guy's ass
Edit: Bit on the late side, sorry
What he said........../\......../\........
Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
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