4/10/2006 1:42am, #101Originally Posted by Da SHreDdA
I know you're just trolling at this point, but I can't sleep, so here you go:
Welterweight Champion: Dan Henderson. Olympic caliber wrestler.
Lightweight Champion: Takanori Gomi. (maybe catch/pro) wrestling. Just lost his last fight (it was non-title) by submission to Marcus Aurelio, a BJJ guy if there ever was one.
Middleweight Champion: Wanderlei Silva. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt.
Other players in this weight class that you've probably heard of: Ricardo Arona, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira. All BJJ Black Belts.
Kazushi Sakuraba: Pro/shoot/catchwrestler.
Alistair Overeem: Abu Dhabi quality submission grappler.
Heavyweight Champion: Fedor. Amazingly talented Judoka and SAMBOist.
Some players in the division: Fedor's brother Aleksander. Judo/SAMBO.
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Fabricio Werdum (cro-cop's bjj coach), etc. BJJ Black Belts.
But wait! What about Chuck Liddell? Surely he doesn't BJJ?! He must surely be the ultimate anti-grapple trump card! Well, he's an extremely talented wrestler AND A BJJ PURPLE BELT.
My point? To be good at MMA, you have to be a good grappler. That's right, you have to be able to grapple, even if fighting on the ground isn't your style.
You don't want to do BJJ because you don't like how some people that do it are asses on the internet? Have you ever gone to a BJJ school? All the schools I've been to have been filled with incredibly nice, helpful guys."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
4/10/2006 9:45am, #102Originally Posted by Garbanzo Bean
"But what about Sakuraba...the Gracie hunter is a pro wrestler"
WRONG..Sakuraba trained with Silva's camp last summer because he wanted to roll with the best......BJJ.
Now that does not mean BJJ is "th3 b3st grappling around"....The other fighters listed by Bean are proof. You can also add, IMO, Carlos Newton, Frank Shamrock, Gokor, and Jeremy Horn to that list (there are others but the names escape me right now like some of the fighters coming out of Bas's Beverly Hills JJ Club like the guy who beat Royler, Genki Sudo)
Bottom line whether its BJJ, SAMBO, Jujitsu, Submission Fighting, some Judo, greco roman, NCAA Wrestling, or fucking ninjitsu it all matters how and with who you train BUT to be a successful, well rounded fighter now-a-days, you MUST have a solid grappling base...........wha,wha, wha, wha, what about Matt Hughes and the Miletich camp their just a bunch of hard core strikers........WRONG, they relied on Jeremey Horn's solid ground work (PAT MILETICH also holds a black belt in Jiu-jitsu not BJJ) to train and assist their fighters in that aspect - (not sure if Horn still rolls with the Miletich camp now though), and Hughes was a solid collegeate wrestler.
If you want to see some of the best grappling, BJJ and others, watch the ADCC best of DVDís.
4/10/2006 11:07am, #103Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
Instead of attempting to wave your e-cock around, why don't you just come to a throwdown? That's what they are for, to test yourself and your art in a safe and ego-free environment. Bullshido does not have to prove anything to you. If you want to prove something to us, show up and rep at a throwdown, or continue the e-penis thumping and we will continue to ignore you.Shut the hell up and train.
4/10/2006 11:15am, #104Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
4/10/2006 11:16am, #105
No, seriously, please come to a Throwdown. There are a lot of people who would like to see good _ing _ung in a live setting. How about the Mega in Kansas City at the end of May? It will be fun.Locu5
combat sports hobbyist
4/10/2006 1:32pm, #106
Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom7
- Join Date
- Nov 2005
Oh. NO. Say it isn't so. Someone who actually believes the bullshit about Traditional/Modified Wing Chun.
Yeah, you'll say one of the following:
1) William was wearing Kung Fu slippers!
2) Emin was naughty, very very naughty!
3) William decided not to hurt Emin!
4) The video is edited!
Number 1 and 4 are most likely true.
Number 3 is bullshit.
Number 2 is bullshit. Who cares if it was dishonourable.
William got taken to the ground and demonstrated precisely zero ground skills, with his legs flapping about like a dead fish in standard spazzing out mode. Whatever went before this, the fact remains that Wing Chun's "Grandmaster" was unable to defend himself in any way once the fight went to ground. Very disappointing indeed.
4/10/2006 2:25pm, #107Originally Posted by TheSparrow
4/10/2006 2:29pm, #108