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    Gi choke, belt choke, what's the difference, right?

    Now if he was wearing wresling shoes and did a shoelace choke, I'd be really impressed.

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    I tapped out a blue belt in my first no-gi class after maybe 2 months of training by doing that ankle lock when he got my back. He destroyed me plenty after that but it was still pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hapkido_keith
    I'm with you on that. That kind of choke should be legal.

    In that case, the first move every competitor should do at the start of every Gi match should be to remove their belt and wield it as a proper weapon.

    The Gi (belt too) is a weapon. However, it should have to stay on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    In that case, the first move every competitor should do at the start of every Gi match should be to remove their belt and wield it as a proper weapon.

    The Gi (belt too) is a weapon. However, it should have to stay on you.
    Ok I see your point; maybe it's not such a good idea.

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    Whoops. Had no idea there was already a thread with Ben Lee in it (someone merged my 1 post thread with this one). Anyway, I train with the guy here at JHU at the BJJ club. He's a great training partner, always a quick thinker.

    The guy in the background saying "what are you doing?" is our instructor, Lee Synowski. You can find his webpage at http://www.baltimorebjj.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDChick
    **** that ****, the gi is a weapon, for and against you. That's the POINT.
    Seriously, look at any of Machado's "Encyclopedia of BJJ", that fucker is a master with the gi assisted chokes and locks.

    Although, I don't recall him actually taking off the belt and using is as a lasso.......that kid is simply ahead of his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Villain
    More like a garrote than a lasso. LOL
    Hence the "Hitman" joke.
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    From the NAGA website:
    Anything a fight wears can be used against him/her during the match (Grabbing clothing for example) Women/Girls cannot use shirts for submission
    They allow the use of clothing in no-gi matches, I don't see why they would have disqualified him for that. Is there a rule anywhere that says it was illegal?

    That was awesome, though.
    Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 4/07/2006 8:28pm at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by notquitedead
    From the NAGA website:


    They allow the use of clothing in no-gi matches, I don't see why they would have disqualified him for that. Is there a rule anywhere that says it was illegal?

    That was awesome, though.
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    I don't know if it's what they meant, but the above wording says you can use the opponent's clothing against him, not your own.

    Also, it can be read as saying you have to be wearing it - which kind of fits in with what I was musing in my earlier post.

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    There are chokes that use your own clothing, as well. Like the ninja choke.
    http://www.grapplearts.com/Ninja-Choke.htm

    I'm guessing the problem is that he untied his belt, and/or that he took it off.

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