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    Quote Originally Posted by GIJoe6186
    Kareteka hold their hands at their waste. Lets not talk about them anymore. Hooks are a great way to make power and shovel hooks are great because of the odd angle.
    Not exactly.

    Olympic Tae Kwon Do stylists spar with their hands at their waist because blocking a headkick with your hands is stupid...and they don't punch to the head. The stances are sideways because the back and leg aren't valid targets, and kicks are easier to pull off.

    Kyokushin stylists usually keep their hands about chin/neck level, with their bodies squared towards their opponent. Almost like a mix of Shotokan and Muay Thai.

    Shotokan stylists usually adopt the "Unslung Gun" stance, which involves a partial side stance with the lead hand pointed towards the face and the rear hand around the chest/stomach area. REALLY traditional Shotokan folks let their rear hand fall almost parallel to the ground at about the belt level...essentially keeping their rear hand about "Half Cocked".

    Broad generalizations are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    Not exactly.

    Olympic Tae Kwon Do stylists spar with their hands at their waist because blocking a headkick with your hands is stupid...and they don't punch to the head. The stances are sideways because the back and leg aren't valid targets, and kicks are easier to pull off.
    This is exactly why Tae Kwon Do is stupid. Plus Im sure blocking a headkick with your hands/arms is not as stupid as...say...blocking it with your head. Also I dont think Tae Kwon Do has any Karateka but thanks for pointing out how stupid Tae Kwon Do is, it made me smile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    Kyokushin stylists usually keep their hands about chin/neck level, with their bodies squared towards their opponent. Almost like a mix of Shotokan and Muay Thai.
    I have no qualms with Kyokushin. There ok by me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    Shotokan stylists usually adopt the "Unslung Gun" stance, which involves a partial side stance with the lead hand pointed towards the face and the rear hand around the chest/stomach area. REALLY traditional Shotokan folks let their rear hand fall almost parallel to the ground at about the belt level...essentially keeping their rear hand about "Half Cocked".
    I dont know much about this style but the hand position doesnt seem to great to me. Im guessing from the description its basically keeping the lead up like a boxer and keeping the rear in a chamber at the belt/hip level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    Broad generalizations are bad.
    No they make it easy to distinguish different things. Of course there will always be exceptions but that doesnt make generalizing bad. Its not good to twist a bears nipple. Now Im sure we can find one bear that enjoys the purple nurple and asks to be whipped, but that doesnt mean I should test each one to find out.

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    What exactly is a shovel hook? I do not know that english term, somebody able to help me out?

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    It's a variation on the uppercut, usually delivered to the body. It's not quite an uppercut, so it's considered a hook.

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    In CMA its usually called an 'Ox-Horn' punch. Same as what odacon is describing. You can get a lot of torque and short power into that strike.

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    I've always sucked at actually using these on people.

    edit: I think my problem with them is, I try to be fairly loose with my punches and these seem to require tensing up to throw, so I can't really flow it in to my combos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    I've always sucked at actually using these on people.

    edit: I think my problem with them is, I try to be fairly loose with my punches and these seem to require tensing up to throw, so I can't really flow it in to my combos
    Its just supposed to tense up at the moment of impact as you torque your whole body thru your arm. Maybe try to break the combo with a short circular side step to change the angle you throw it from, flank the side and bury it?

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    You do have nice flow with your punches though, Tara was commenting on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbiter
    Its just supposed to tense up at the moment of impact as you torque your whole body thru your arm. Maybe try to break the combo with a short circular side step to change the angle you throw it from, flank the side and bury it?
    I'll have to work on that, I love body shots (trying to be less of a head hunter these days)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbiter
    You do have nice flow with your punches though, Tara was commenting on that.
    Thansk :)

    been sorta trying to emulate me thaiboxing instructor who just whips them out. Sometimes I get stuck on jab jab jab jab jab, and I've really been trying to change that
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