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  1. danno is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    Yeah bro, look back over the threads I've contributed on and tell me that I've contributed nothing...especially on this issue of Kyuktooki versus TKD.
    i'm not saying you've never contributed anything to bullshido, i'm saying that petty bullshit is a waste of time and fills up threads with useless arguments which are beside the point, and i even pointed out the fact that i myself had added useless crap to the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    I shed a tear for you.
    cool; now lets move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    I've seen pretty much everything in the TKD world. 99.9% of it is ****.

    Then there's old school TKD.

    Which basically is on par with Kyokushin or Shotokan, depending on who you study with.

    There are TKD guys who I would have no problem recommending anybody go to...guys who grapple, kickbox, and fight bareknuckle, guys who have rolled with the Machados and fought in Kyokushin tournaments...and won. Guys who have earned Omega's respect.

    But they are the exception to the exception to the exception, not the rule. I would use them as the example of what TKD could be...but likely never will, because it's too daunting a task to turn an entire fucking art around. I know of one well noted grandmaster who laments the state his country's art has fallen into...to the degree that I think it weighs on his health...

    Taekwondo is like Karate or Kungfu. Some of it's good. The grand majority of it blows big time.

    But hey, at least it gets me laid.
    i have a 1st dan BB in WTF TKD from years ago. i've always looked at kyokushin and thought "this is how TKD should be". i believe that good sparring makes the difference.

    i gave up on TKD and moved on to muay thai, boxing and BJJ... i'm now doing MMA.
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    You could look at it this way.

    Taekwondo is the outgrowth of Japanese karate, developed by Koreans.

    Kyokushin is an outgrowth of Japanese karate, developed by a Korean.

    Ergo, Kyokushin is the ultimate form of Taekwondo.

    And Kyokushin is the most practiced form of Karate (outside of TKD) in S. Korea, especially after "Barami Fighter".
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    would barami fighter be fighter in the wind?


    the soju wore off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoardHitBack
    would barami fighter be fighter in the wind?
    Yup. Great flick, if 90% inaccurate. Inspiring as hell. And all the Kyokushin guys who get pissed at the Koreans for it can kiss my ass. It was based of a Japanese comic book.


    Quote Originally Posted by BoardHitBack
    the soju wore off?
    Yeah.

    I finally crashed at around 530...now I'm here again, spending far too much time with you lovely people.

    But hey, last night couldn't have been too bad. I see I have two new quotes in my sig.

    Now I just have to figure out how that happened.

    I find it amazing that I was so lucid in my posting last night.
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    It will always be "that korean movie" to me......but hey its fun to watch.

    I'll always be pimping karate bullfighter over it tho. Dammit they used a real bull!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoardHitBack
    It will always be "that korean movie" to me......but hey its fun to watch.

    I'll always be pimping karate bullfighter over it tho. Dammit they used a real bull!
    Good movie as well. However, it lacks one thing that Barami Fighter had.



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    I'm becoming more and more sure that before you even attempt a TKD grading you must demonstrate you have the requisite number of pictures of scantily clad asian chicks.

    *sigh* I knew one day I was going to have to enter a dojang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoardHitBack
    I'm becoming more and more sure that before you even attempt a TKD grading you must demonstrate you have the requisite number of pictures of scantily clad asian chicks.

    *sigh* I knew one day I was going to have to enter a dojang.
    Just choose carefully.

    Many have turned their back on the true Taekwondo.
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    "Ergo Kyokushin is the ultimate form of Taekwondo"

    Your logic never ceases to inspire me. I had given TKD a total write off after returning to the States, but seeing that at least 1% of the TKDers in the U.S. strive for the art to change in the same way that I do gives me hope.

    I was actually at a school a couple of weeks ago that has a TKD program as part of their school. I was talking with one of the MMA guys about the TKD and told him if I had my way I would turn the whole program into a Kyokushin style training program. Let them keep the TKD forms, but change the whole training regiment so they could actually produce fighters instead of slap taggers. Of course if you did that 95% of the students would quit.

    When I first started out in MA I started with TKD, when I look back to when I first started and how I thought TKD was th3 d3adly I want to slap myself.
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