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  1. Meager is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108

    You do WC and Aikido and get in the ring, you're doing MMA.
    If you train nothing and get in the ring, you're doing MMA. It's a sport, not a style.
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    i have to agree that when i hear jujitsu i think of jjj. the standing locking and striking of the japanese. I only think of grappling when i hear the individual style names like sambo, judo, bjj.
    There are a wide range of JuJitsu styles that train a complete ground game. Judo and BJJ are just the most famous ones that do this. Katori-Shinto Ryu and Yoseikan Budo spring to mind as being very well established Japanese schools that have some phenomenal ground work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meager
    If you train nothing and get in the ring, you're doing MMA. It's a sport, not a style.
    Exactly. It's a sport. The problem is that these guys are advertising MMA training, but they don't participate in the sport. You can get a wooden leg, wear an eyepatch, and walk around with a parrott on your shoulder, but if you've never been in a boat, you ain't a pirate. They know what comes to potential students' minds when they say "we offer MMA training", but that's not what they're offering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil
    Exactly. It's a sport. The problem is that these guys are advertising MMA training, but they don't participate in the sport. You can get a wooden leg, wear an eyepatch, and walk around with a parrott on your shoulder, but if you've never been in a boat, you ain't a pirate. They know what comes to potential students' minds when they say "we offer MMA training", but that's not what they're offering.
    If I'm in my boxing gym training, but I've yet to have an official match - am I not training to be a boxer? Am I not getting boxing training?

    MMA = fighting at all ranges. You could train WC and akido and it would fit the MMA definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meager
    If you train nothing and get in the ring, you're doing MMA. It's a sport, not a style.
    yep. it's a set of rules which allows striking and grappling - the UFC is a pretty decent benchmark for what MMA looks like.

    "MMA" was originally used more often to describe a fighters style (which basically meant "this chap can strike AND grapple"). nowadays, MMA is often used to refer to the sport (a set of rules), which allows striking and grappling. you can do anything you like within those rules - which makes the sport of MMA is so remarkable because it allows for just about everything in 1 on 1 unarmed combat to be tested.

    these are also good ways to describe the sport:

    NHB

    Vale Tudo (which basically means NHB)

    Pankration - i'm pretty sure this means "all powers".

    so, it is misleading to claim that you're teaching MMA when what you do is TKD and aikido, because these days MMA refers to sports which look very similar to the UFC.

    edit - and you don't have to actually compete in MMA to say you're doing MMA, as long as your training is appropriate for that sport if you ever did wish to compete.
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    [QUOTE=PirateJon]If I'm in my boxing gym training, but I've yet to have an official match - am I not training to be a boxer? Am I not getting boxing training?

    Yes, you're training to be a boxer. But do you think you're qualified to run a boxing program if you've never had a match?
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    that's a good point too. actually competing in MMA should make you a little more qualified. at the same time, just because you competed doesn't mean you know enough to teach it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danno
    that's a good point too. actually competing in MMA should make you a little more qualified. at the same time, just because you competed doesn't mean you know enough to teach it.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil
    Exactly. It's a sport. The problem is that these guys are advertising MMA training, but they don't participate in the sport. You can get a wooden leg, wear an eyepatch, and walk around with a parrott on your shoulder, but if you've never been in a boat, you ain't a pirate. They know what comes to potential students' minds when they say "we offer MMA training", but that's not what they're offering.
    Right, in order to actually be a pirate, you have to plunder the booty, me matey.

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