4/03/2006 11:35pm, #41
The second rates at my club go up and I see my instructor driving a brand new BMW when the mats need replaced, I'll get annoyed. Until then, meh."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
4/04/2006 3:30am, #42Originally Posted by Hannibal
I love how you always post in vague generalizations, though. I bet you have a textbook lift and dump.
4/04/2006 6:02am, #43Originally Posted by Garbanzo Bean
Here in Belgium, judo is a great choice because:
a) the weather is sucky enough that people'll nearly always walk around in a jacket and b) even in my little hometown with Pop: 25K there were 4 judo clubs and knowing how not to get thrown by a judoka then becomes important as well.
4/04/2006 6:24am, #44Originally Posted by Meager
Let me get this straight.
Somone did a shoulder throw on you, you landed on a hardwooden floor and your still walking around in one piece ? Bullshit. If anyone does a correct shoulder throw or any other forward throw and you land flat on a wooden floor, then its hospital time.
Getting thrown and landing on thick crashmats still hurts as it is. Your a bit winded, but you can get up again. I honestly can't see anyone landing on a hard wooden surface safely.
My guess is your bullshitting about the whole thing or are confused on what a shoulder throw is.Hannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!
4/04/2006 6:46am, #45Originally Posted by Hannibal
On the other hand, I've been buried in crash mats by muscular dans who would almost certainly hospitalise me if they threw me for real. Sufficient acceleration plus somebody else making a crunching landing on your rib-cage is going to **** you up on concrete.
4/04/2006 6:51am, #46
textbook lift and dump + bad ukemi
(not saying you can regularly shrug off a hard fall on a hard surface, but to say one would cripple you is a bit much)
In otherwords, hannibal, he didn't land flat, he landed right. (a trick I'm notoriously bad at)
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4/04/2006 7:49am, #47
Originally Posted by Hannibal
- Join Date
- Sep 2005
- Brooklyn, NY
- Yudo, Karate
Best way to injure someone in Judo is improper text-book execution of throws. At my old school, my instructors were cool or crazy enough to teach us how to improperly throw someone with specific intent to cause much injury as possible.
for example, in shoulder throw, instead of throwing the opponent so he'll drop toward's his back. we were also taught to throw the opponent so he'll drop on his head or face first if we wanted to hurt someone.
You still can injure someone with text book throws if you do them hard but best way to injure someone is to execute the technique non-text book. Like Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi, we actually did more of kick rather then sweep...that is not text-book.
How long did you do Judo for and what rank are you?
Edit: Spelling error.
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4/04/2006 7:52am, #48Originally Posted by Hannibal
4/04/2006 9:12am, #49
- Join Date
- Jul 2002
- Rhineland Pfalz, Der Vaderland
From my personal experience, JUDO is better for SD. I've used this more than JJJ or BJJ in real fights. If you Judo sucks (like Shumas does) then you will need BJJ. If your Judo is good then I don't know many pple want to keep fighting after meeting the ground at a high rate of speed.______
Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!
Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
4/04/2006 9:20am, #50Originally Posted by Mr. Jones