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    Not over zealous, but just zealous enough. 病気の粗悪品

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhamma

    I like were your heart is at here Rhama but I think that has a bit more penetration then you want. Good knock down though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime
    I was voted most likely to return fire in high school..... But the above situation is pretty rare unless you live in Compton CA.

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    Don't be so sure.
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kein Haar
    Rifle rounds for home defense? Anybody besides me live in suburbia and wanna take responsibility for your projectiles?

    Even a .45 will go through 7 pine boards.


    That's the intent with the FiveSeven round. It's designed to stop in tissue and not over penetrate, but still punch through metal/kevlar. Two/three layers of sheetrock can stop it (so they advertise.)

    The round sure seems like it's a series of design contradictions, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    I think this might be the way to go then:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?item=46259533
    LOL. But what do you do about the resulting fire in your home? :smile:

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    For home defense I'm assuming the ideal would be a round with low penetration and decenct stopping power, am I correct?

    I think this might be the way to go then:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?item=46259533
    Anyone else think an incendiary round inside a house might be a bad idea?

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    Still it is very very rare. Just like alot of violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Mantis
    Yeah I saw that thread when it was first posted. Was not impressed. In all the time I have been answering 911 calls. Most of the drive bys/fire into house situations were with handguns. The exception is a quad fatal that my buddie took where these gents from out of town (chicago) showed up to collect a debt (put a hit on) some other gents (meth manufactures), They used a couple of SKS's and got every one inside.

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    speical projectiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    That's the intent with the FiveSeven round. It's designed to stop in tissue and not over penetrate, but still punch through metal/kevlar. Two/three layers of sheetrock can stop it (so they advertise.)

    The round sure seems like it's a series of design contradictions, that's for sure.

    Yeah i am inclined to agree. It is a .25 calibur with 2500+ fps but will not over penetrait. Do they use speical projectiles or somthing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime
    Yeah I saw that thread when it was first posted. Was not impressed. In all the time I have been answering 911 calls. Most of the drive bys/fire into house situations were with handguns. The exception is a quad fatal that my buddie took where these gents from out of town (chicago) showed up to collect a debt (put a hit on) some other gents (meth manufactures), They used a couple of SKS's and got every one inside.

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    Do you mean, no body count, no big deal kind of thing?

    I see violent criminals all the time (almost every day) So I don't think violent crime is all that rare (you must live in Palo Alto). Shooting into houses is probably more rare, I wouldn't expect the common thief to do it as part of their robbery scheme. They're more into stealth. Some burglars may go into it with violence in mind (particularly rape) but most want to grab some loot and go.

    The types I've had in the past break in and steal money (wallets/purses) and grab the car keys and make off with the cars without waking anybody up. They don't want to deal with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime

    SFG would you attempt to clear you house if you thought somone was in it? Just curious, I would and have.

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    It depends. For a home invasion I pull the famliy into the walk in closet quickly, and wait for the bastards to bottleneck themselves in the door. If I hear a crash followed by silence, I call the cops and wait. If I can't get ahold of them, I use the cell. If that doesn't work, or I don't want to make any noise, I'd clear the house, but that would be my option of last resort. It's dangerous, unpredictable, and as much as I love my 5'2" 110 lb redheaded wife, I do not trust her to have my back in a firefight.

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