Thread: The wisdom of fightingarts.com
8/18/2005 3:34am, #1
The wisdom of fightingarts.com
As I am getting zergling rushed, I thought I should share the big, veiny cocks of the fightingarts forums before I am erased from time. I encourage all members to join and, uh, engage in reasoned debate.
Innapropriate Bunkai is always good for a laugh or two.
My own frantic defense of my base is a good way to start. Two things to note:
1: My own geeky hobbies as a teenager are made fun of by men who believe in KI STARES.
2: The Fred Villari TOURNAMENT OF DOOM comes back to haunt us in a very unexpected way.
Stickied on the aikido forum. That's me, by the way.
To all forum members,
Please do not respond to the aikido-bashing ignorance being spouted by Ubermint.
Ubermint is a Bullshido troll.
All posts by Ubermint that do not fit the policy guidelines for this forum will be deleted, as will any other posts, by him or anyone else.Originally Posted by Bushi_no_ki
Originally Posted by victor smithGichin Funakoshi's senior students have told stories of how, after being instructed to attack him, could not lay a hand on him as he would just "disappear" and end up behind them, tapping on their shoulders.Originally Posted by Victor Smith
I have heard some theories about the famed death touch...some of which make more sense then others. One is similar to the strike performed in Bloodsport on the bricks where a specific brick was chosen and the energy of the strike was dictated to detonate there instead of the previous bricksWe spent a great deal of time on energy development and application one interesting thing we found during the Kiai-jitsu section. We worked several different sounds to explore their impact. For an example to demonstrate the up sound Master Panatazi had each pair lift some one first just with normal body weight, then as dead weight and then lift the dead weight saying to up sound. It was easier to lift the dead weight with the up sound; I frankly found it easier than normal weight.
Quantum and theoretical physics agrees with you. There is ki/qi/chi. There is also Ch'i. You can't prove the soul or qi exists now, but people who know the truth don't need proof.
Science is often limited and self-defeating due to the "burden of proof". If reality is subjective, and perception is illusion then proof is often no different than consensus opinion. Entropy and Order are eternally grappling. Can you concretely realize the limits of both sides? Gotta try I guess.
another example, an armbar. instead of just applying pressure to the elbow in general, dig your knuckles into the point just above the elbow joint on the back of the arm (triple warmer 11) dig your knuckles in (rub, you can strike it with no effect...RUB it)and towards the elbow, remember also to grab the wrist because this actually activates wrist points, one of which is listed above. tw-11 is about an inch above the elbow joint (or so) on the back of the arm.
All martial arts are meant for killing.
The difference is how this fact is worked with by various arts, styles and schools. Most places "sneak-up" on the fact by teaching the most superficial and non-lethal material first and saving the most lethal for later.
Well, you don't dodge and wait. It's more like bullfighting. It doesn't matter how big he is or how hard he punches if he misses. And aikido makes him miss by a very small margin. Done just right, that alone can cause him to fall, or even fly through the air.Also, there is a tremendous psychological element to deep aikido (as opposed to shallow aikido). They say, "The art of aiki is to overcome the opponent mentally, at a glance, and win without fighting." A really good aikido man can subtly disorient a potential attacker and weaken his focus and his will to attack. Likewise, if he wanted, he could lure the attacker to make a poorly chosen and badly timed attack, and wind up getting a taste of sidewalk.Back this up with one more thing: aikido has one central deadly technique which can kill in one stroke. If the aikido man is aware of this technique and is willing to apply it, this also communicates to the harasser. You don't bow up, you don't cow down, you don't get in a stance, but you look at him and you are able, ready and willng, very calmly, to shut down his nervous system for good. And something deep inside his mind says, "Let's find another patsy." And he walks away and leaves you alone.When the attacker realizes that you are really about to strike to kill and he feels that any step or move he makes toward you will put him smack in the middle of your technique, and you in your heart know that you will do it, he just changes his mind. I have had about five such encounters in over 30 years of martial arts training.
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8/18/2005 3:53am, #2
It's kind of interesting. I wish you had brought it up sooner so I could participate, since I spent around 8 years doing goju ryu karate before changing to MMA.
I find it disappointing some of the people there reverted to an argument that looked suspicously like "the sprawl doesn't work on the street".
8/18/2005 4:15am, #3
I didn't see a sprawl but I saw some wonderful ballet.
[goes off to shut someone's nervous system down for good]
8/18/2005 6:12am, #4
8/18/2005 8:13am, #5
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"We spent a great deal of time on energy development and application one interesting thing we found during the Kiai-jitsu section. We worked several different sounds to explore their impact. For an example to demonstrate the up sound Master Panatazi had each pair lift some one first just with normal body weight, then as dead weight and then lift the dead weight saying to up sound. It was easier to lift the dead weight with the up sound; I frankly found it easier than normal weight."
Imagine if someone got that on tape..
8/18/2005 9:53am, #6Originally Posted by Zeddy
Dumbasses.SON OF ODIN
My Punching with Power article
8/18/2005 10:17am, #7
8/18/2005 10:32am, #8
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"Quantum and theoretical physics agrees with you. There is ki/qi/chi. There is also Ch'i. You can't prove the soul or qi exists now, but people who know the truth don't need proof.
Science is often limited and self-defeating due to the "burden of proof". If reality is subjective, and perception is illusion then proof is often no different than consensus opinion. Entropy and Order are eternally grappling. Can you concretely realize the limits of both sides? Gotta try I guess."
Thats right. And I get my fucking quarters from the toothfairy when my teeth fall out. What the **** is wrong with these people? Entropy and Order are eternally grappling? Is this some sort of shot at BJJ? Or better yet what do you get if you tap out Order? Or Entropy?
8/18/2005 10:41am, #9
Originally Posted by Jaric
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Ya gotta love Aikido-ka -- the ultimate tree-huggin new age funkin hippies of martial arts.
I've nothing against aikido, really, but it seems to attract the fruitiest of wannabess. I tried aikido briefly in college and this was definitely the case there as well.
Oh, and none of them could punch or fight for ****, so of course I didn't believe any of their **** would work (I was a nidan in karate back then.)
I've heard there are more fighting-oriented aikido styles though. I suspect the fruities stay away from them. Wouldn't want to hurt their limp wrists throwing a punch or anything.
8/18/2005 10:43am, #10Originally Posted by Jaric