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  1. Odacon is offline
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    Kyokushinkai vs Muay Thai

    First of all, I know there are threads containing references to this, but I can't find a definite answer anywhere. Did Mas Oyama and Yoshiji Soeno really fight and defeat Thai fighters "Black Cobra", and "Reiba"? There are a few articles here and there but no pictures or coments from the men themselves.
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    I do know for a fact that Mas Oyama was the first to take a team of Karate fighters from Japan to take on Thailands to Muay Tai fighters and they did quite well. This was not recent. It happened 30 years ago I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    First of all, I know there are threads containing references to this, but I can't find a definite answer anywhere. Did Mas Oyama and Yoshiji Soeno really fight and defeat Thai fighters "Black Cobra", and "Reiba"? There are a few articles here and there but no pictures or coments from the men themselves.
    It is a fact that Oyama, Soeno, and Terutomo went to Thailand and fought many Thai fighters. The actual names of the fighters is kind of hard to verifiy since BLACK COBRA and REIBA were most likely nicknames and pple change them or forget them.
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    Any pictures of those matches? I know it was in the fifties but so was Kimura/Gracie, and there was even video of that. In fact, are there any pics of Oyama in action when he was young? Apart from against bulls of course.
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    i could see a good Kyokushin guy doing well against a MT guy. i didnt know there were challenge matches though.
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    Yeah, apparently the only karateka who accepted were Oyama's guys... or so the story goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    Any pictures of those matches? I know it was in the fifties but so was Kimura/Gracie, and there was even video of that. In fact, are there any pics of Oyama in action when he was young? Apart from against bulls of course.
    If you follow this search through, you should find a few short videos of Oyama:

    http://www.altavista.com/video/resul...mvd=all&stq=20

    They usually show him doing kata, hitting a makiwara, or beating up blackbelts (as a middle-aged man).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD ASIA
    It is a fact that Oyama, Soeno, and Terutomo went to Thailand and fought many Thai fighters. The actual names of the fighters is kind of hard to verifiy since BLACK COBRA and REIBA were most likely nicknames and pple change them or forget them.
    Apparently this is kind of an issue with fighters in Thailand and certain ranking systems. It seems most of the fighters generally just go by ring names (which often change) and so orginazations like WIKBA and what not rarely tend to give out rankings to fighters in Thailand.
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    Watch K-1 if you want to see Kyokishin VS Muay Thai matches. Most of the KK fighters do boxing or MT with it though due to the lack of headpunches in their art so its not strictly style VS style.
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