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    Point sparring is useless. It teaches you bad habits, which are hard to unlearn. For instance, it messes up your intent, striking form, distancing, timing, and it gives you none of the benefits like getting used to being hit, staying with the flow instead of expecting the match to stop, and everything that non-point sparring gives you. I did it for a long time and I still have all these bad habits which are hard to get rid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidran
    Point sparring is useless. It teaches you bad habits, which are hard to unlearn. For instance, it messes up your intent, striking form, distancing, timing, and it gives you none of the benefits like getting used to being hit, staying with the flow instead of expecting the match to stop, and everything that non-point sparring gives you. I did it for a long time and I still have all these bad habits which are hard to get rid of.
    So what about non-point light or medium contact continuous sparring (e.g. 'awase' or 'jiyu' kumite in Karate - I don't know what the Chinese equivalent is)?
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    I think light contact is ok for beginners and medium contact is ok, but your training should progress towards harder contact sparring so you know what it's like to hit and get hit, though of course not to the point of screwing up your training over injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidran
    I think light contact is ok for beginners and medium contact is ok, but your training should progress towards harder contact sparring so you know what it's like to hit and get hit, though of course not to the point of screwing up your training over injuries.
    I agree (he says, with an injury that has him resting for 10 fucking weeks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    Thats a very good point.

    But quite lost on the pointless.

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    Training to stop after hitting someone or being hit is horrible and a habit that stuck with me a long time and still does to some extent.

    Point sparring fucking sucks, if you need to spar like a ***** for some reason you can pad up or lower the contact level, but training to stop in the middle of the fight is just dumb.

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    Anna! I am sick of listening to you bad mouth 'stop point' sparring! If we went all out all the time think of the injuries, think of the time it takes to teach people to turn their heads away, think of all the 'lean back' training that happens.

    Point sparring is the king of all combat situations. If you can get that first kick off well then you have a better chance to win the fight, even in a street!

    * sarcasm off *

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKD Black Belt
    doliochagy
    I'll bite...:wtfgif9fr does that mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidran
    Point sparring is useless. It teaches you bad habits, which are hard to unlearn. For instance, it messes up your intent, striking form, distancing, timing, and it gives you none of the benefits like getting used to being hit, staying with the flow instead of expecting the match to stop, and everything that non-point sparring gives you. I did it for a long time and I still have all these bad habits which are hard to get rid of.
    Well, there goes my reliance on the jumping backfist of doom to kill my enemies...

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    doliochagy (its phonetic Korean so I might spell it a little different from others) but it translates as - ROUND HOUSE KICK / TURNING KICK

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    Point sparring is for children. Full stop.

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