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    Point sparring is not completley useless.

    It is limited, but its still sparring. No ones co-operating with you, their trying to hit you and you in turn them. I think point sparring is a good "stepping stone" to introduce people into fighting. People who are new to martial arts and not comfotable with the full contact stuff.
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    I don't know about point sparring,

    is it the same as in boxing? you get points for hitting someone right, I don't get it.

    I thought bullshido loves boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal
    Point sparring is not completley useless.

    It is limited, but its still sparring. No ones co-operating with you, their trying to hit you and you in turn them. I think point sparring is a good "stepping stone" to introduce people into fighting. People who are new to martial arts and not comfotable with the full contact stuff.
    I agree. It can also introduce juniors to fighting without them getting too hammered (a concern for parents if not for the kids themselves). They can then progress to full-contact as they get older (which often happens, even with officially ''light' sparring). The real problem is when people believe point-fighting make them 'street-ready'. I would, however, suggest that point-fighting in Judo is a little more useful, though it can lead to a similar narrowness of ability, inability to handle 'illegal' techniques, and the various contingencies of actual fighting (including the pain). This is a problem with most formalised, regulated, sport-based fighting forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbowtko
    I don't know about point sparring,

    is it the same as in boxing? you get points for hitting someone right, I don't get it.

    I thought bullshido loves boxing.
    Point sparring usually involves

    - no punching head/face
    - restarting match after each strike, so basically first strike wins round
    - no/light contact
    - no KOs allowed

    etc.

    That's why boxing > point sparring

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    Point sparring usually involves

    - restarting match after each strike, so basically first strike wins round
    Yes, the traditional 'one punch death' ideal has little resemblance to the 'I-tap-you-with-a-bent-wrist-and-win-the-ippon' reality.

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    Nonetheless, it remains a worthwhile undertaking for beginners, youngsters, and folk who are injured, but who still want to compete in some way other than kata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    Point sparring usually involves

    - no punching head/face
    - restarting match after each strike, so basically first strike wins round
    - no/light contact
    - no KOs allowed

    etc.

    That's why boxing > point sparring

    Your shitting me...:eusa_wall

    Then point sparing might as well be a pistol duel with dart guns, but atleast they get face contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbowtko
    Your shitting me...:eusa_wall

    Then point sparing might as well be a pistol duel with dart guns, but atleast they get face contact.
    Plenty of point competitions have face contact - it's just that it's (mostly) light contact, and has the other problems listed by TehDeadlyDimMak. The Kyokushin blokes avoid punches to the head, but they allow kicks to the head, and full contact blows to the body.
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