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  1. PirateJon is offline
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    and good morning to you too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocrates
    Of course, back then, without any exaggeration, the line between "sports" and "real combat" was rather thin. People got accidentally or not so accidentally killed all the time in sporting events...

    Of course, whether such excessive brutality actually would make better warriors than today's sanitized training and competition is open to question.
    Sanitized competition? Tell that to Leavander Johnson or Kevin Payne.
    You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
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    I think the original poster is pretty much spot on.
    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
    Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


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    Competion and Sport to hone abilities? Actually using your techniques on living people?

    My God man.... you're all savages!
    :google:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpaladin
    Competion and Sport to hone abilities? Actually using your techniques on living people?

    My God man.... you're all savages!
    What can you expect
    From filthy little heathens?
    Their whole disgusting race is like a curse
    Their skin's a hellish red
    They're only good when dead
    They're vermin, as I said
    And worse
    They're savages! Savages!
    Barely even human
    Savages! Savages!



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    What do you guys think of the "mentality" argument that jfs used to bring up? Do you guys agree with it? Do you think that a guy with bad intentions has an advantage over a sport fighter who's not used to trying kill every guy he's up against?

    I personally don't think so unless the "s7r337 f1gh73r" has a serious size and strength advantage or is amped up on amphetamines or some other stimulant. And even then, I think that a well rounded sport fighter has a reasonable chance of coming out on top.
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    What do you guys think of the "mentality" argument that jfs used to bring up? Do you guys agree with it? Do you think that a guy with bad intentions has an advantage over a sport fighter who's not used to trying kill every guy he's up against?
    Yes .
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD ASIA
    Throughout history SPORT has always been used to hone real combat skills. It was done in every warrior society so its funny as hell to see Modern wannabe "Masters of Defense" talk down about SPORT training.
    Totally. I imagine that the origin of athletics generally was to try to find safe(r) ways for the warriors of the tribe to test their skills and see who was the Big Dog without too much spilled blood.

    I have a buddy who does Stav. I cannot imagine real vikings wasting their time with that **** at all. My friend feels it cultivates a'warrior mindset'. I know that real Vikings wrestled constantly, and probably sparred hard with blunt weapons too, and almost certainly would have been bored senseless by forms practice.
    "You know what I like about you, William? You like guns AND meditation."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendetta
    I have a buddy who does Stav. I cannot imagine real vikings wasting their time with that **** at all. My friend feels it cultivates a'warrior mindset'. I know that real Vikings wrestled constantly, and probably sparred hard with blunt weapons too, and almost certainly would have been bored senseless by forms practice.
    maybe what they used to do looked a bit more like huscarl than stav: http://www.ucc-hamburg.de/video/Huscarlclip.wmv
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