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    Quote Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu
    Why tire yourself out though before you start doing the technical stuff? Bodyweight stuff for after.

    Crossfit's on the right path but it's not the be-all end-all of fitness, mostly because they have to make it too generalized to fit everyone. It's like a horoscope, it makes sense if you convince yourself it does, but then again it's supposed to do the same for everyone. Two guys I used to train with were big Crossfitters, but they still spewed when I took them for a training session. Because it's so general, your gains overall will be minimal rather than if you do a specialization. For general athleticism, it's awesome. For fight training, you can use some of the ideas but I wouldn't take the whole package.
    Well, the idea behind Crossfit is that you're supposed to provide the specificity. Crossfit itself is supposed to be general. If you want to be a kick-ass deadlifter, then it's up to you to add what is necessary. For the fighter who needs to have a little of everything (strength, speed, flexibility, etc.) it's a great place to start. Use the Workout of the day, add some sparring, rolling, bag work, etc. and you've got a good foundation with which to begin.

    -daGorilla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kein Haar
    So..uh...

    http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html

    Over on the right are cross fit work-outs, eh?
    Yeah, those are videos of some folks doing specific workouts. Actual work out routines can be found on the home page, and some "standardized" (named) workouts can be found in the Crossfit FAQ.

    Try one or two out some time, if only to do something different for a change.

    -daGorilla

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    Quote Originally Posted by daGorilla
    BTW -- I'm not a body weight training nut, either. I just thought this point was worth bringing up. I know I sound like a Crossfit Nutrider... I kinda am, but I'm not down on other systems either (5X5, Dinosaur Training -- there's lots of good ones).

    -daGorilla
    Good post. Actually, several different programs (Stew Smith, Dinosaur Training, SEAL Quest, etc.) are linked to from Crossfit's home page. As I mentioned before the philosophy is the important part. The whole point of it being "open-source" fitness is applying it to your chosen endeavors.
    "Keep a sharp knife, shiny boots and be on time."

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    All I got to say is stop hating on body weight.
    yes it's not progessive. yes you can't easily vary the resistance.
    But it's still exercise and some still prefer it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odorblocker
    All I got to say is stop hating on body weight.
    yes it's not progessive. yes you can't easily vary the resistance.
    But it's still exercise and some still prefer it.
    Agreed...and I guess doing ANYTHING is better than doing nothing...whether it's weight-training, bodyweight training, or whatever training "philosophy" you choose (like Crossfit or what-have-you)...it's still better than sitting on your ass not doing a thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daGorilla
    Yeah, those are videos of some folks doing specific workouts. Actual work out routines can be found on the home page, and some "standardized" (named) workouts can be found in the Crossfit FAQ.

    Try one or two out some time, if only to do something different for a change.

    -daGorilla
    No.

    :ninja2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apostol
    Ross Enamait definitely knows his ****. www.rossboxing.com
    I agree.

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    When your nuts reach bodyweight they are indeed out of control.

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    Yes Koto got his name changed, quit asking... supporting member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apostol
    Ross Enamait definitely knows his ****. www.rossboxing.com
    Ross also does stuff like sandbag routines, dumbbell snatches, and the like. He's not a straight bodyweight guru.

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    I have no knowledge of those 2 programs but I have been training with weights for 11 months without gaining a pound until about 6 months ago I looked up Matt Furey's site and since then I have gained 20 pounds of solid ripped muscle (without any supplements) and went from 55 consecutive pushups to 140!!! There are plently of leeches out there but bodyweight and core training for strength, especially MA strength are more than valid.

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