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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    Karl Gotch was very much into bodyweight exercises, but he never (AFAIK) advocated bodyweight exercises only. We have one clip here in Iranian Club Swing thread of him using a gada for training.

    Yep, aware of that I was. As for what most folks in the Western world think of as "lifting weights", he was most definitely not a fan. Club swinging, climbing ropes, pull-up & dip bars, and grip machines (Captains of Crush, etc) are pretty much it for his equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanniballistic
    Check the dates before you get too much sand in your vagina - Gotch was alive when this was posted.

    The "dead guy" was teh fcat that Furey claimed at one point to channel the ghosts of wrestlers of yore...no I am not making it up
    Sorry, the sand's already there.

    I'm no fan of Furey since I was doing vyayam before I ever heard of him.
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    Heh, heh - fair do! As long as you hate him for the right reasons
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    Is there a reason NOT to hate him? :tongue3:
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    errrr...hang on....nope...I got it, he...nah.....umm.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanniballistic
    errrr...hang on....nope...I got it, he...nah.....umm.....
    I don't hate him, I'm just not a fan.

    BTW - I heartily approve of the new avatar!
    I agree, pretty funny. "300 at the Roxbury"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    I'm enjoying the thread, but have some respect, man. The "dead guy" that you're so flippantly referring to died just the other day. He was Karl Gotch, a pro wrestler & catch wrestler who was not a fan of weights but a huge BW advocate...
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25848
    ... & here's a decent page from Wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Gotch
    & he would have kicked your ass even when he was in his 60's.
    The primary part of his p.t. was not called "Combat Conditioning" but is actually Vyayam, a very effective calisthenic form of Yoga, used by great Indian wrestlers such as Gama or the Bux brothers... all of whom are dead but would have easily kicked your ass. You can read about them in the "Lion of the Punjab 1-4" series here: http://ejmas.com/jalt/jaltframe.htm
    The Bux brothers easily handled guys that lifted weights all the time and that were huge.

    This guy, Imam Bux...

    http://ejmas.com/jalt/punjab/ImamBux.jpg

    ... beat this guy, John Lemm, easily...

    http://ejmas.com/jalt/tani/JohnLemm.jpg
    The Bux brothers did basically the same exercises as those that Karl was an advocate of, short of maybe some log dragging or club swinging.


    So show some friggin' respect.

    Dude, the post was a reference to Farmer Burns, not Karl Gotch. Show some friggin' respect =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    Dude, the post was a reference to Farmer Burns, not Karl Gotch. Show some friggin' respect =P

    I didn't see the date on your post, I thought that you were talking about Karl Gotch. Of course, it doesn't change the overall tone of your posts.

    I guess you're not the only one that's guilty of not reading other peoples posts...
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    In reference to the title of the post.

    "Bodyweight nuts are out of control"

    I think http://www.Bodyweightculture.com changed a lot of that.

    Still I see people selling videos on how to workout on how to workout in the play ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    I didn't see the date on your post, I thought that you were talking about Karl Gotch. Of course, it doesn't change the overall tone of your posts.

    I guess you're not the only one that's guilty of not reading other peoples posts...
    What do you mean? I read your post where you said that I was talking about Karl Gotch when I was talking about Farmer Burns. I also read where everyone corrected you, but you never apologized nor did anyone actually say "Farmer Burns", so I made my post to set the facts straight.
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