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  1. GIJoe6186 is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This is stupid. Government regulating martial arts is stupid. This is stupid. Bullshido regulates martial arts period.
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    Its the "results obtained" bit that I think will be fun.

    "Your honor, to show that my client can't defend himself, the prosecution would like to enter into evidence Bruce, a 250 lb bouncer, who, with the courts permission, will beat the living **** out of my client."
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    Now that would be funny!
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    3/28/2006 1:39pm


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    That legislation should apply to gyms as well. You think the MA world has it bad in terms of contracts? Check out Balley's or other fitness places.

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    I think the question of what constitutes as qualifications will likely be decided on the "reasonable" basis. THis is business legislation and the VAST majority of business cases invlove how a reaonable person would perceive something. Government issued quals (police or military training) would be considered defining by a reasonable person therefore they would fly. Regulatory organizational titles would also likely be held as proper, but as one goes down to a guy who made up his art a couple of years ago would have a much harder time proving his case if what he claimed to teach borrows a part of someone elses nomenclature (which could make things intersting for the _ing _un people).
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    I wonder if the scam artists will try to stop it before it gets started. That's be a quick way to tell who's legit and who's not.
    You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
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    NO ONE hates McDojos more than me, but I have a problem with the government telling a business owner how to do business.

    If Big Brother gets into the dojo what's to stop him from regulating other aspects of operation, i.e. "no-contact" sparring for safety. Promotion based on seniority, ect...

    Like I said I hate McDojos, but I don't know if this is the answer. If this is as far as it goes, than I would be okay with it.
    People often tell me that I fail to see the gravity of the situation.
    I see the gravity, and I say...

    Step right up folks and watch me defy gravity!
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhamma
    NO ONE hates McDojos more than me, but I have a problem with the government telling a business owner how to do business.

    If Big Brother gets into the dojo what's to stop him from regulating other aspects of operation, i.e. "no-contact" sparring for safety. Promotion based on seniority, ect...

    Like I said I hate McDojos, but I don't know if this is the answer. If this is as far as it goes, than I would be okay with it.
    Consumer protection is a good thing. This isn't a slippery slope.

    But really, one word will stop any "no contact" legislation from passing and that word is "boxing"
    You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
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     Style: Yang style Tai Chi

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    I like this legislation, in theory.

    I'm a bit concerned about A) opening up the martial arts to legislation, and B) the exact process that may be used to deterime qualifications. For an example of what I mean, wander over to Martialtalk or MAP and listen to my fellow Tai Chi types blathering on and on about lineage.
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    In new hampshire, martial arts schools are already regulated along with health clubs (you can see some of the original statute at the bottom of the link) but they are now splitting them off. I would love to see similar consumer protections on health clubs as well.
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