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  1. Kave is offline

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    3/25/2006 9:45pm


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    Suspected KungFu Bullshido in New Zealand

    Looking for martial art schools in New Zealand I stumbled across this site http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~redtiger/id1.htm . It is the worst bullshido I have ever seen, Ashida Kim is nothing compared to this. Any recommendations as to how someone should go about attempting to get rubbish like this closed down?
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    If you are going to use strong terminology such as "cult" to describe and individual or organization, I'd make the kind suggestion that you back it up with specifics. While this is most certainly Bullshido (undefeated fighters, etc, etc) I don't see anything that scream "cult". Please provide evidence of cult behaviour or issues if you are going to use that term.

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    (The Llama bit my junk but the ref didn't see it).
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    Posted On:
    3/25/2006 10:42pm


     Style: Hung Ga Gung Fu + Judo

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    What the hell is "Ion Palm"?
  4. TehDeadlyDimMak is offline
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    3/25/2006 10:48pm


     Style: Sanda, BJJ

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    It's a palm based attack that's super effective against droids.
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    Posted On:
    3/25/2006 10:52pm


     Style: Hung Ga Gung Fu + Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    It's a palm based attack that's super effective against droids.
    Ah, that clears everything up. ThreeP-O better watch his ass.

    Seriously the Sifu looks like a brokedown fatty Stone Cold Steve Austin in a Kung fu robe.
  6. Plasma is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by parthenon
    What the hell is "Ion Palm"?

    A palm that is missing electrons....duh
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    I'm guessing you'd have to pay for the 'personnel training' to learn ion palm.
  8. Kave is offline

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    3/26/2006 2:05am


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    The reason I am describing this as a cult, is that I find the live-in aspect of this very worrisome. When that is combined with a uniform, shaven heads, and a harsh training reigime, you are getting into similar methods to what the army uses to break down an individual before building them up as part of a team. This is a very powerful method. Add to this mix a false glorification of the leader of the group through systematic lying, lies about the effectiveness of what they are learning, a twisted mix of eastern philosophies and new age spiritualism, and hugely extortionate costs of $100 dollars a week, and it is getting pretty close to what I would classify as a cult. Also the fact that apparently, as shown on the healing section of the website, his underlings refer to themselves as disciples. But having said that, I realise that it is relatively hard to define what a cult is-and I am willing to settle for just saying that this guy is bullshido, and one hell of a con artist. I wish I could do something, but I am not too sure if the law would back me, and my 120lb 5'5' unfit self would probably find it unwise to challenge him, especially as my fighting experience consists of 5 yrs of wrestling and three months of judo, just enough for me to know how much I would suck in a brawl with a 250lb fatty.
  9. Hannibal is offline

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    Its bullshit.

    Places that advertise in a cult fashion normally are.

    Your better of without it. In my opinion you should stick to wrestling. If there is anything worth learning, its a good grappling art like wrestling.
    Hannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
    Over the years William Abbott was to undergo over 47 Challenges Winning 46 and drawing in one against the Japanese Champion in a no rules ring tournament held in Hawaii the fight lasted 5 hours with both masters having then conceded to a draw.
    I got this from the site.
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