Thread: UFC Fake?
3/24/2006 10:53am, #31
I have indeed been called out. I wish I had a vid camera...
Originally Posted by Gerry Mansfield
Uh.. ok. I must have missed this and I never got a PM from ya about it. But yeah, I'm very in. I'm 6'4 290 so that will sure make you happy. My coach is pretty strict about who can fight but you have boxing experiance so he should be ok with it. If not I know some guys at my bjj place do Vale Tudo style matches so no worries. I'll send you a PM with my gym and email.
and actually your 'burn' does get to me since I haven't been able to train all week. Gotta love exchange problems. But you made my day.
PM = sent
Last edited by PirateJon; 3/24/2006 11:00am at .You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
3/24/2006 11:05am, #32Originally Posted by elnyka
3/24/2006 11:06am, #33
Maybe he challenged you under another name. He has admitted to having a previous username on here."No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here." -- Hannibal
3/24/2006 1:26pm, #34
Nah, he was the guy that was saying how bag work can damage your brain. I did indeed make the offer to check me out when he said I was doing bag work wrong.
I'll believe it when I see him in the ring, but giving the benifit of the doubt stepping up puts him above 99% of the peeps out there. Should be fun.You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.
3/24/2006 2:56pm, #35
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TKD Vs. Boxing and BJJ,
I see this happening:
Boxing/BJJ on top of course,
3/24/2006 3:00pm, #36
Bitch, I'm a liger!
3/25/2006 9:45am, #37
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Hard to post after a tiger picture like that one.....
The only thing that really bugs me about the recent UFC series is this desire to be "exciting" and "entertaining" to not have "boring" fights. This seems to be interpreted by the fighters and promoter as fights with lots of wild punching and not much clinch work or ground work.
A desire to be entertaining smacks of the WWE and will encourage working/faking of fights.
Examples of the bad calls in recent UFC matches are things like fighters who are being agressive in the clinch up against the fence but are getting seperated and put back in the centre of the ring. Ground games are being stood up after only a couple of seconds. What this allows is for guys who are good kickboxers to win fights by just learning how to stall on the ground and get the stand up.
I have been to a lot of MMA events in the last year and the UFC ones have been the least exciting, because I am not there to watch kickboxing. I want to see complete fighters.
Now there have been some UFC fights that go through all phases of combat in an exciting fashion (Durkson vs Marqhart (sp?)) was one that I really liked. But the majority are simply kickboxing matches.
3/25/2006 8:54pm, #38
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I 100% agree with what Askari said. Subs take time - and sometimes a bit of patience - to set up against a skilled opponent. Standing the fighters up so quickly makes UFC a little too close to kickboxing to me.
I guess that's the price I have to pay to have it on Spike.
3/26/2006 1:19am, #39Originally Posted by Askari
Examples of the bad calls in recent UFC matches are things like fighters who are being agressive in the clinch up against the fence but are getting seperated and put back in the centre of the ring.
Ground games are being stood up after only a couple of seconds. What this allows is for guys who are good kickboxers to win fights by just learning how to stall on the ground and get the stand up.
3/26/2006 7:53am, #40
I think a lot of the recent stand-up's so to speak in the UFC are more related to the general parity in jiu-jitsu / grappling skill that most athletes have now as compared to the last few years. Wrestlers like Hughes have good submission and sub defences besides just slams and GnP. And BJJ BB's like BJ Penn and Kenny Florian have excellent striking games. Between striking and grappling it seems easier for good grappling to neutralize each other, where as striking causes damage no matter what when a good hit lands and it becomes a matter of who can damage the other person more and can withstand more damage.
Case in point BJ wasn't able to do anything against GSP on the ground and had a lot more success against him striking.