UFC Fake?

**Ke?poFist** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 12:49pm

Originally Posted by PirateJon

Armbar = Pressure point striking?
:bduh:

Where did he reference an armbar? And for that matter how is hurting someone with an armbar related at all to unseen internal injuries?

**GoldenJonas** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:06pm

Originally Posted by Punisher

It wasn't brought up in the thread, but there have been worked (def:faked/predetermined) fights in the UFC, although they were based on an agreement between the two fighters without any prior knowledge on UFC's part.

What fights have you heard that were "worked"? It has been a while but I read in the book "No Holds Barred: Ultimate Fighting and the Martial Arts Revoluition" by Clyde Gentry, that there is no direct evidence of a worked fight ever having occured in UFC.... BUT, that there was indirect evidence of a possible work in one of the fights back in the early days. I can't now remeber which fight Gentry said but I think your right in that it was essentially and agreement between two fighters where one may have had a broken hand or something.

Anyone else remeber this entry from the book or know of any other "worked" UFC fights?

**Kengou** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:11pm

One could probably consider Royce fighting a bunch of karate and kung fu guys "works".

**PirateJon** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:15pm

Originally Posted by KempoFist

Where did he reference an armbar? And for that matter how is hurting someone with an armbar related at all to unseen internal injuries?

He was saying that there's a possibility of internal injuries due to "pressure point striking". I call bs since the closest thing to "pressure point strikes" you'll find in the UFC is a joint lock.

**Fantasy Warrior** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:31pm

Originally Posted by PirateJon

He was saying that there's a possibility of internal injuries due to "pressure point striking". I call bs since the closest thing to "pressure point strikes" you'll find in the UFC is a joint lock.

Well, it is bullshit but people have attempted to use PPs in UFC - Ryan Parker, the Okinawan karate guy who fought Remco Pardoel in UFC-7... he got tapped by a choke...

***Plasma*** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:34pm

Originally Posted by Raynor

I don't control any specific section or moderate discussion in any meaningful way. Nor am I a blue belt. He means Aeso and Shuma in homeland security. But yeh, with exception of Asia and Omega, the staff isn't made up of ninjas.

I think you need more Ninjas on Staff....

Or maybe our own TMA forum.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:47pm

Originally Posted by KageKaze

Or maybe our own TMA forum.

Long before you joined there were separate TMA and MMA forums. They were merged because it was a needless distinction to everyone who trained properly. If you want a forum dedicated to tabi-wearing sillyness you can go... pretty much anywhere else.

**broken fingers** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:55pm

Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath

Long before you joined there were separate TMA and MMA forums. They were merged because it was a needless distinction to everyone who trained properly. If you want a forum dedicated to tabi-wearing sillyness you can go... pretty much anywhere else.

nice.:happy:

***Plasma*** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 1:57pm

Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath

Long before you joined there were separate TMA and MMA forums. They were merged because it was a needless distinction to everyone who trained properly. If you want a forum dedicated to tabi-wearing sillyness you can go... pretty much anywhere else.

It was a joke :)

I actually like the way the technique forum is done now, with the Grappling (Even those I am not allowed to post there) and Striking with the General Forum. However, I think a Weapons sub forum would be pretty sweet :)

I am suprised a TMA forum ever existed on Bullshido.

**Ke?poFist** · Posted On: 3/23/2006 2:00pm

Originally Posted by PirateJon

He was saying that there's a possibility of internal injuries due to "pressure point striking". I call bs since the closest thing to "pressure point strikes" you'll find in the UFC is a joint lock.

ahh I see, well in his defense I believe he was criticizing the UFC's use of 4oz gloves, which give just enough cushion to stop teh d3@dly knuckle PP strikes. Apparently he didn't pay attention to what happened in those early years of UFC and cage fight events when techniques like that were put to the test bareknuckle.