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  1. stencil is offline

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    8/20/2002 2:41pm


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    Truewrestler: That's what I was trying to say. thanks.
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    First off it is a small self defense class in a gym owned by my family. Get that through your skulls.....

    Also please show me where I ever said I was the greatest. I'm sorry but if you're thirty plus pounds overweight you're not gonna be able to keep up with the rest of the class. It was in no way prejudice it's a fact.

    TrueWrestler and Stencil I don't particularly crae what you say, I got responses from people older than I and wiser who would have done the same thing...I think I'll listen to them rather than you.
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    BTW 9 chambers I idn't turn him down just said that he'd have to lose the excess weight then hecould gladly join. I want for anyone who trains with me to strive to be the best that they can be in all aspects of life so why not physical?
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    8/20/2002 4:44pm


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    "TrueWrestler and Stencil I don't particularly crae what you say, I got responses from people older than I and wiser who would have done the same thing...I think I'll listen to them rather than you."

    Spoken like a learned and experienced sensei.
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    "I told him that if he wanted to join it'd be ok but he'd haveto lose the weight first. I was in no way rude I conducted myself like a gentleman. I even offered to train him for free until he got into shape. I told him it was not personal only it was in his best interest if he was serious."

    If you are a serious MMA school then I think it is great that you would do the above. However if it is "a small self defense class in a gym owned by my family" then I don't understand what the big deal is.

    Please explain what your MMA/small self defense class teaches? What are the styles? What type of conditioning does a class consist of, and at what point do you think this person would be injured.



    Edited by - Truewrestler on August 20 2002 16:56:10
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    8/20/2002 6:47pm


     

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    WTF ???

    Fat people can't train ??? You fuucking gimboid.

    Maybe if you'd let his fat a$$ join, he could have lost the weight you fuucking pr!ck.

    That's Fatism.

    Like somebody pointed out earlier, Tank Abbott is more than 301b overweight.
    And he would kick your stupid little dumb-fuuck a$$.

    Pr!ck !!!

    *Uno*

    Bruce Lee,Jet Li,Segal and Van Damme are all actors so shutup about them.
    Goldberg is soft
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    8/20/2002 6:54pm


     

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    hehehehehe

    you should have at least given him a chance to see if he could keep up - what you said is that you judged him based solely on what he looked like.

    I think he should have taken you up on the personal trainer offer though. Going to the TKD school that literally told him he would suck even after spending all his cash and time on them is really freaking stupid.

    >> To be bound by traditional martial art style or styles is the way of the mindless, enslaved martial artist, but to be inspired by the traditional martial art and to achieve further heights is the way of genius. - Bruce Lee
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    8/20/2002 11:27pm


     

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    TrueWrestler, 9chambers...ect...youguy are missing the point. I didn't say he couldn't train I said that he'd need to get into a little better shape before hand. I did not base him on how he looked, I based on what I see him do in the gym, the guy couldn't run a quarter mile without looking as if he were going to collapse.

    The fact is if he were serious and really wanted to learn he could've taken my offer. The reason he would be a liability has nothing to do with what is taught, people wo are in poor shape are much more likely getting hurt doing normal things than people who are in good shape.

    Fogster, I thought you had a brain but I guess I was wrong...You'e right Tank is a big guy but he also trains a whole hell of a lot more than that guy did. He's a pro fighter, that guy wasn't even an avid exerciser. No doubt he could lose the weight in class but it wouldn't necessarily help him in th long run. Going to class wont change his dieting habits, personal training will. Going to class won't increase his cardiovascular fitness and strength levelsthe way personal training will.

    I'm not biased, I wanted the guy to join, I just wanted him to be in good health and able to compete with everyone else.

    It's sad really I figured you guys of all people would understand. Letting this guy remain in terrible shape is doing as much disservice as any mcdojo.
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    OK 10fingers, I'll be more rational.

    Do you not agree that he would lose the weight at your class ???
    If he wouldn't, why is there no cardio value in your training ???
    Surely all martial arts are good for cardio ???
    Cardio training helps lose weight.

    I recently started BJJ training, and was about 15 lb's overweight, the trainer didn't tell my fat a$$ to lose a few lb's before commencing training.

    Incidentally even with all the extra-cardio work I've put on another 6lb's since. But that is cos I'm a greedy b@$t@rd.<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle> and drink too much beer <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

    One more point 10fingers, do you seriously think Tank does much training ??? I highly doubt it.

    Yours more respectfully yhis time. (Cos I'm sober <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> )

    *Uno*

    Bruce Lee,Jet Li,Segal and Van Damme are all actors so shutup about them.
    Goldberg is soft
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    8/21/2002 5:35pm


     

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    Ok fogster,

    I agree he'd lose weight, we do a lot of cardio however, I think that he'd really get the full advantage of the class if he were in better shape. I offered to train with him and help change his lifestyle. For free, no money was involved at all. I wanted to mae sure he would carry his discipline into the rest of his life not just the duration of class.

    We require everyone to work out at least 3 times a week to maintain a level of fitness. I think you'd agree that to ensure you're at the top of your game physical fitness is required.

    You may have gained 6 pounds but I'd highly doubt that it was fat.

    Also I'd imagine Tank would train hard, realistically you have to have excess fat to really be strong, that's why people in world's strongest man contests are 10 fold stronger than body builders but are less cut than bodybuilders. Someof the best boxers in the world are/were heavyset. They also could last 15 rounds in a ring whereas this uy couldn't last 15 minutes.
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