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    You know, there's a more efficient way to practice shutting down an opponent's strikes and offbalancing him when your bodies have contacted each other.

    It's called clinch.


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    in one of baqi9 video clips he did convert it into a Thai-esque clinch.
    The teacher's pac sao da...instead of withdrawling the fist, it glance around the head and cupped the crown of his head...he never finished by getting the other hand back there but the point of the exercise was flowing chi sao, not Clinch entry 101.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krackie
    We spar and it is called my son jong drills, which usually lasts no more than a few seconds each drill, before it is reset and starts again. This is the nature and ideal of Wing Chun, to finish a fight in a few seconds.
    Does everyone get pretty beat in each of these sequences? If not, how can you tell you can do the job in just a few seconds?

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    No one gets "pretty beat" in these sequences. It is a drill to improve your skills with increasing levels of speed, energy, coordination and power while demonstrating control. For real, all you need to do is crank up the power which is easy enough. It is the other skills that need a structured, scaffolded and incremental progression of learning in order to master. No need to "badly beat" your training partners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krackie
    For real, all you need to do is crank up the power which is easy enough. It is the other skills that need a structured, scaffolded and incremental progression of learning in order to master. No need to "badly beat" your training partners.
    If you never crank up the power in practice, how will you know you can really do it?

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    How do you know the sun will rise tomorrow - you don't. The best way to discover this for yourself is to train at a good WC club and you will FEEL it for yourself. Sparring will not let you "know" if it will work for real. The point of this thread is a discourse about the purpose of chi sau. If you want to question WC go to the many other threads that encourage this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krackie
    How do you know the sun will rise tomorrow - you don't.
    I dont? Explain.

    The best way to discover this for yourself is to train at a good WC club and you will FEEL it for yourself. Sparring will not let you "know" if it will work for real.
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    It's a clinch drill at best. Learn to swim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krackie
    Sparring will not let you "know" if it will work for real.
    It certainly can. Every fighter who steps into a full contact match knows that sparring works for real.

    As for chi sao, I wanted to know the applications; if there are none, then what you're saying also answers my question.

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