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  1. Phrost is offline
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    Koto, your fucking signature is too big. Fix that before it gets nuked from orbit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerilla Fists
    But before I worry too much about the efficiency of our combatives training I ask myself and the rest of you how likely is it that close quarters/unarmed combat occurs in a combat zone? Do we even need it? And if we do shouldn't we train with all our gear on?
    The Army is now all about labeling everything it can as "Warrior ______." PLDC is now WLC, Common Task Training is now WTT, the latest Soldier's Creed (or is it code?) has a four line "Warrior Ethos" embeded in it. I'd imagine that one of the objectives of the combatives program is to instill a "warrior spirit" and esprit de corps.

    Aside from showering and maybe during PT on a secure base, a soldier will always have his/her weapon nearby. You sleep with it near you, you eat with it near you, and you even bring it with you when you go take a dump. Hand to hand is probably not all that important to a modern day war fighter. The biggest threat from the combatives program, as many have already highlighted, is the sudden rash of giant egos.

    If nothing else, it can be good PT when implemented properly.
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    I concur. Good for PT, good for developing physical confidence. However, I love tooling the asshats who think they're just a little TOO deadly. And I'm not even that good. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoratioHooah
    The Army is now all about labeling everything it can as "Warrior ______."
    I **** you not... Just down the street from my barracks, there is a 3rd shop maintenance building that is labeled, of all things:

    Warrior Lube

    That one, so far, is my absolute favorite, especially given the fact that it is located on a part of the installation that is "female heavy." I'm not sayin' anything, I'm just sayin'...

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    Lol. Nice.

    I dare someone to go down to their POL office and ask the MSG there for some "warrior lube". And while they're at it, they can ask for some blinker fluid as well. Then go to the commo shop and ask for the PRC-E7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Fitts
    Lol. Nice.

    I dare someone to go down to their POL office and ask the MSG there for some "warrior lube". And while they're at it, they can ask for some blinker fluid as well. Then go to the commo shop and ask for the PRC-E7.
    Don't forget the keys to the Humvee while you're at it. A few rolls of tree-line might be a good idea too.
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    The Navy had no hand to hand component to boot camp. Of course, if some dude could swim up to my sub and get inside, I don't want to go hth with him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canuckyokushin
    I would so do Buttsecks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Fitts
    Lol. Nice.

    I dare someone to go down to their POL office and ask the MSG there for some "warrior lube". And while they're at it, they can ask for some blinker fluid as well. Then go to the commo shop and ask for the PRC-E7.
    My first day as an LT, my CO told me to go find some of the stuff you guys are mentioning. He got mad when he caught me upstairs an hour later asleep. I told him I couldn't find any treeline so I was dreaming some up for him.
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    One of my favourites was having some NUB go up to Control and ask permission to "Blow the DCA." The Damage Control Assistant just happened to be the Officer of the Deck at the time. Without missing a beat, he told the NUB that he needed to rack out the Chop and get 4 feet of fallopian tube before he could blow the DCA.

    NUB went to wake up the Chop (Supply Officer) and everybody cracked up as we heard the Chop chewing this idiot's ass in the Wardroom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canuckyokushin
    I would so do Buttsecks.
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    Favourite things to send NUBs for:

    Gigline
    Fallopian Tube
    Water Slugs (to feed the shaft seals)
    Buckets of steam
    Machinist's Punch (as a Machinist's Mate, this was the most fun for me)
    Mail Buoys
    Chowline

    Boy Butter. This is a nickname for silicon grease, but after having been screwed with, NUBs wouldn't believe it existed.

    Forcing a nub to call away a "number 5 red bug" spill and treating it as a casualty was also amusing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canuckyokushin
    I would so do Buttsecks.
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