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  1. Lu Tze is offline

    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagamichi
    You **** brains seem to think there is some sort of shamen-cosmic truth-secrets of the old ones-magic-ritual inducing power in A black belt. It is just a damn peice of cloth. It holds a gi shut and is black. Whats the fucking problem? You dont think kids should be doing MA? Instead They should be hooked up to the internet so they can be stalked by molesters?

    On the o0ne hand, all you little keyboard toughguys go on and on about MMA being the only "real" Fighting arts in the world. They you get all upset when you see a kid wearing a black belt. Big fucking deal. Most TMA schools have a Jr. black belt. Jr. meaning not Adult.

    Most TMA schools even tell the kids that the3 black belts are not "real" black belts. So who gives a ****? If the kids are in the dojo they are off the streets, off the net, off the nintendo, and off the porn.

    MMA is about compeating and fighting. the TMA are about other stuff as well.

    Lay off the kids. go after the **** heads teaching adults the stupid ****. Bitching about a kid wearing a black belts makes it seem like mabey someone is jelouse.
    It's precisely because that 'black belt' is meaningless that people are so critical.

    You know how I've got to earn every belt from orange up in the BJA? I've got to fight, if I can't win in competition, then sorry, no promotion for me. If and when I get a Judo black belt it's going to fucking mean something. The same is true of BJJ, even more so.

    So when people who've actually earned the right to wear that belt see people walking around with it purely because they've attended so many months and have learned to memorize some fucking crappy piece of choreography it's going to get them riled some, I'm sorry if that offends you.
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    i agree with wagamichi in that it is not the kids fault that he wants a blackbelt, (what kid wouldnt?) but its his dumbass teacher who will be promoting him who should be bashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    The instructor's stance is very upright, his feet look very close together. I am worried he may fall over with that narrow stance.
    amen


    as for the hating ... I hate when I want to . I am a grown man I can do what I want .
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    The student isn't at fault here people ... that should be pretty clear . Any harshness you sense is directed towards the teacher and the bull **** organization who believes Martial Arts is about forms and good report cards .
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    Nuke a unborn gay whale for Christ.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze
    . If and when I get a Judo black belt it's going to fucking mean something. .
    Right...an adult shodan rank. I dont know how most other TMA schools do it but a kids blackbelt is not a shodan rank. it is not even a dan rank. It is a piece of cloth. the kids feel good about it and most go on to keep training and get thier adult black belt.

    Hey, I got over my hate. I used to think it an abomintation that TKD even had a black belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagamichi
    Hey, I got over my hate. I used to think it an abomintation that TKD even had a black belt.
    I still haven't gotten over it ... sorry .
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    Nuke a unborn gay whale for Christ.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagamichi
    Right...an adult shodan rank. I dont know how most other TMA schools do it but a kids blackbelt is not a shodan rank. it is not even a dan rank. It is a piece of cloth. the kids feel good about it and most go on to keep training and get thier adult black belt.

    Hey, I got over my hate. I used to think it an abomintation that TKD even had a black belt.
    I don't know how it is in the states ut here a kid can't get a black belt in judo (or in most MA) he needs to be at least 16 (18 in some arts).

    you think an 8 year old Black belt isn't going to brag about it or doesn't think he can defend himself ?
    Martial Arts is like sex, if you over complicate it with exotic sounding names, theories and principles, you end up fucking yourself in the ass. -Ronin69
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolodesBois
    you think an 8 year old Black belt isn't going to brag about it or doesn't think he can defend himself ?

    Well I guess it depends on his instructor. Keep in mind a black belt in one art does not mean the same in another. it is just a belt. I have a problem with Kids that teach. that is a whole nother issue. A kid wearing a black belt big deal. A 13 year old wearing black belt teaching class, Thats crap. and that **** goes on all the time. I have a problem with adult shodan teaching. that is the true essance of bullshido.
  8. Doctor X is offline
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    In the United States there is no legal rule about rank--anyone can declare what they want. The only legal recourse--lawyers HERE might be able to enlighten--is if you try that with a trademarked group. So, I could be sued for using "Gracie BJJ" by the Gracies, but if I create "X-Ryu JJ Do" there is nothing anyone can do but kick my ass should the opportunity arise.

    As for kids . . . I am sorry, no matter HOW clear someone makes it, the kid thinks it is the same as an adult rank . . . he is just not old enough.

    Blame the kids? Only for their inability to pull up their pants. Just as there are "Little League" parents who live throught their tykes, there are martial arts parents who have idiotic expectations. I cannot really fault an eight year-old . . . but I can fault the adults who should know better.

    --J.D.
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