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    Oklahoma follows Kansas to Dark Ages

    http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...l/14002872.htm


    This is just the beginning, many states are and have been trying to pass similar bills.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire.

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    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire.

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    Don't get me started on this (I'm an evolutionary and behavioural ecologist).....
    creationism has no place in a science lesson. it. is. not. science.
    fair enough teach it, but keep it in RE lessons.

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    Since the wording says "All scientific views..." it should exclude ID and Creationism. I doubt, however, that the proponents of this bill see it as such.
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    That's the problem, the people making the bill don't understand science and how a scientific theory is different to what anyone else would call a theory. A scientific theory is more or less fact: gravity is a theory, relativity is a theory. And if anyone is interested, I can send you copies of papers showing "evolution in action" as it were, real life animals that are mutating and speciating right now.

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    I think mabye the better way of presenting it would be:

    Not everyone believes in science, here are some alternative theories that have nothing to do with science.

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    They try to teach science. Instead of asking a scientist what science is, claiming scientists are biased, they ask their preacher. Awesome.

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    I see your anti-evolution quackery and rasie you one establishment of religion

    http://www.house.mo.gov/bills061/bil...o/HCR0013I.htm

    Whereas, our forefathers of this great nation of the United States recognized a Christian God and used the principles afforded to us by Him as the founding principles of our nation; and

    Whereas, as citizens of this great nation, we the majority also wish to exercise our constitutional right to acknowledge our Creator and give thanks for the many gifts provided by Him; and

    Whereas, as elected officials we should protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs while showing respect for those who object; and

    Whereas, we wish to continue the wisdom imparted in the Constitution of the United States of America by the founding fathers; and

    Whereas, we as elected officials recognize that a Greater Power exists above and beyond the institutions of mankind:

    Now, therefore, be it resolved by the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-third General Assembly, Second Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, that we stand with the majority of our constituents and exercise the common sense that voluntary prayer in public schools and religious displays on public property are not a coalition of church and state, but rather the justified recognition of the positive role that Christianity has played in this great nation of ours, the United States of America.
    Who, for Pete’s sake! Is opposing science? In fact, we want MORE science by CRITICALLY ANALIZING the evidence-Connie Morris, Kansas State BOE (bolding and underlining part of original quote, red is my emphasis)


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    Ahh.. Missouri is now adopting an official state religion

    That's just sick. Good thing it's just a resolution and has no legal consequence at all.
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    I'm not too worried, the shenanigans in Dover nipped this in the bud. Ultrawhackoconservative Utah couldn't even get something similar passed, Ohio dropped it's anti-evolution stance and so did some school district in California.
    Who, for Pete’s sake! Is opposing science? In fact, we want MORE science by CRITICALLY ANALIZING the evidence-Connie Morris, Kansas State BOE (bolding and underlining part of original quote, red is my emphasis)


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