Thread: Target Focus Training
3/14/2007 3:31pm, #111Originally Posted by cyrijl
bwdillon - TFT is not a crash course per se. It is supposed to show us where we are going wrong with our training. All it does is show me that people why buy any old crap if it is marketed correctly.
It stinks and you have done nothing to negate the whiff
3/14/2007 3:37pm, #112
Here is a crash course
1: Get some cardio. Go for a long walk, jog a little
2: Strengthen some abs
3: Chin tucked, hands up, elbows close in
4: Aim for the head
Now. Let's fight. I guarentee you I will PWN you. I don't even have to use any of my MA training. I will PWN you out of sheer rage. You can't just give someone some simple tools and that's it. Hard training (or even moderate in my case) help to give you controlled agression so that when fight or flight situaitons arise, you don't have to pass out like a dainty little lady. Pretending to get hit is not the same as getting hit. At the same time, pretending to break someone's arm is not the same as actually doing it. Even if you were lucky enough to get a dominant position, you probably wouldn't have the stomach to do what you need to do. Real violence <> Larping. Or if you prefer Real Violence != Larping. Larping(real violence) = false. HOW MANY WAYS CAN WE SAY IT!!!?!!?!??There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
3/15/2007 5:37pm, #113
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I was only trying to point out that tft isn't all bad. I personally could care less as I don't even train in their stuff and never will. I think I may have given you guys a wrong impression and I apologize for that.
3/15/2007 9:22pm, #114
No need to apologise for anything - but TFT IS all bad!
3/16/2007 11:21am, #115Originally Posted by bwdillon
I also like the fact that they came out and said there are only so many ways to break a joint.
I didn't like how they made it look like their techniques work every time, in my experience that kind of thinking is dangerous and impractical.Kungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Bullshido.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena
3/16/2007 11:37am, #116Originally Posted by curby82
because quite frankly if the technique just showed him stepping in and toe kicking the guy in the groin and then with another step while he is going into his picture perfect groin reaction gave him a double forarm strike to the neck, causeing him to faint noone would have thought much of the gun because those targets are obvious to us, but quite frankly after kicking the guy in the balls, knocking him unconsious, then crushing his throat so he sufficates in his sleep, would me now picking up his gun that I know absolutly nothing about and shooting him be any worse than what I just did to him? some may still say yes quite boldly and thats ok I guess because all our lives we have been taught the gun carries all the power and to always respect and take care of the gun before anything else.
The vids are not there to show you how to go about injuring a man with a gun, it's to show you different ways in which the principles can be imployed also the joint breaking and weapons vids do not go very in depth into TFT's principles, if you want a clear understanding on what it is about you will first need to get thier seminar series or attend one of thier live trainings.
OH P.S. the gun does not do anything but what the operator tells it to,
and TFT also goes in depth as well in showing you how to insure that you don't get shot accidentally while the guy is falling etc as well as ensureing the safety of bystanders
but as alwasy the primary concern is yourselfKungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Bullshido.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena
3/16/2007 11:47am, #117Originally Posted by OnceLost
You may not be taking the gun away to shoot him, curby - ASSUMING your technique works, you could just be taking it away to deny it to him/anyone else. You know - secure the scene.
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3/16/2007 12:14pm, #118Originally Posted by Hannibal MAP
The coloring books are similar to medical aids a first year medical student would use to identify differing parts and organs of the human anatomy. Supposedly, the TFT students colors in these areas of the paper so they "know" what part of the human body they are damaging. Silly. As for the delusional training, this is employed whenever the TFT participant is without a workout partner. They sit on their ass and "imagine" in their minds how they will take some bad guy out. Then, they get on the private TFT forum and talk to similarly minded nuts there and discuss how great the hallucinatory training worked out for them. After which, chief nutball, instructor Torin, encourages them by saying at the TFT forum, "Imagine walking up to your attacker, then imagining your kick to his groin rupturing his testicles, then imagine your right hook to his temple caving in his skull and as he begins to pass out as he hits the floor, imagine your foot stomping down and crushing his neck killing your attacker." or asinine words to that effect.
Unless, you've had access to TFT private forum, you'd never know they talked crap like this. Well, that's why you come to Bullshido, to read the facts.
3/16/2007 5:53pm, #119
Originally Posted by Kungfoolss
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3/17/2007 12:06am, #120
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I honestly can't even begin to find all the questions and answer them as best as I can for you guys, they were simply too much but I will address this stupid comment that keeps coming up and that is what if I hit the guy and there is no state change( didn't get my target)
What if you missed the target you were going for? what would you do? duh... you just keep going.
It could have started that the guy blind sided me and now has his arms around my neck pumleing me with punches and I see his groin from the position he had me in and I strike it but caught his pants instead, do I just say oh well and give him my life oh do I make it my business not to miss a second time. I said this before but I'll say it again. It doesn't matter what style you do or what your principles are, I think we all know and understand that the only thing thats stops it from being a 12 round boxing match is injury, Nobody said it would always go down that clean but I understand that the person that causes that first injury is usualy the person that goes home and TFT gives me a road map of the body's anatomical weak areas which if you want you can argue with the early latin doctors about their validity. They never claim that you will hit your target everytime, especially when you factor in adrenaline etc ? of course not infact they know you won't but like every other system out there will tell you WHY PRACTICE ANYTHING OTHER THAN PERFECTION!
I know I'll get someone saying now well if your hitting that hard everytime you will be off balance and........) so TFT won't work and my system teaches me to do very fast combinations so the guy does not have time to recover. But what is he recovering from? if you did'nt injure him with your first strike then he has nothing to recover from and you have caused no state change in that man then he is not compelled to react to anything your doing to him unless you hit a TARGET.
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