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  1. Roidie McDouchebag is offline
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    Unless it's impossible...do both?
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    Normally I would suggest, Judo. Its probably a better choice for a 'base' grappling art.

    But just how far away is it ? Judo probably will be cheaper and technically all the techniques you find in BJJ, you will find in Judo. So from a cost point of view its better. But if Judo is an hour away from your house and BJJ is close by, it maybe better to take BJJ. Traveleing to and from training is a bitch if its a long way away.

    Closer it better.
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  3. Cassius is online now
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    Posted On:
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    1.) Try both classes out.

    2.) Decide which one has the best combination of price, number of classes you can attend, distance, and what have you.

    3.) Try to take both if you can.

    4.) Enjoy

    Camus: I'd imagine that some people feel that it is harder to go to Judo from BJJ than vice versa because Judo has a more restrictive ruleset.
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    I knew TTJC's $100,000 challenge rang a bell:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...highlight=ttjc

    Sorry, not too much concrete information about the school in there, but if you end talking to them maybe you can get some details on their challenge and what it entails.

    For what it's worth, they bjj school you're considering is mentioned too, although just to say there is one in the area and wonder why none from there has taken "the challenge" yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geves

    - the BJJ school is alot closer (which is important for me)
    Location matters. My bjj school is across town and that hampers my ability to go there as much as I should. A hour there, 1-2 hours for class, and an hour back? That's your whole night. Unless you're complete willing to give up 2-3 nights a week, I'd stay local.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal
    technically all the techniques you find in BJJ, you will find in Judo.
    Except for any leg attack and other submissions that are illegal in Judo.

    Note that I'm not saying don't take judo. I'm merely saying don't listen to Hannibal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meager
    Except for any leg attack and other submissions that are illegal in Judo.

    Note that I'm not saying don't take judo. I'm merely saying don't listen to Hannibal.

    No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here.

    The techniques you are talking about like a doble leg takedown, ankle locks,guilotine chockes and so forth are only outlawed in competition. But thats because of politics. At my Judo club, people are welcome to use them during sparring.

    Do we place a huge focus on them ? Not always.
    Are we taught them ? Yes.
    Can we use them in club training ? If you can get them to work, yes.
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  8. Cassius is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal
    No. Listen to me because I know what I'm talking about here.

    The techniques you are talking about like a doble leg takedown, ankle locks,guilotine chockes and so forth are only outlawed in competition. But thats because of politics. At my Judo club, people are welcome to use them during sparring.

    Do we place a huge focus on them ? Not always.
    Are we taught them ? Yes.
    Can we use them in club training ? If you can get them to work, yes.
    Hannibal. Seriously, just be quiet. In general (especially in America), you are going to learn little newaza in Judo.

    Yes, technically Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu have a lot of the same techniques, but that does not make them interchangeable. I'm not knocking Judo here, but don't pretend that everyone with a few years of Judo experience is going to be competent on the ground. Maybe your club is one of the lucky ones that teaches its students solid grappling on the ground, but don't pretend this is a universal thing.

    Saying that is the same as me saying "Well you're going to learn all the good Judo takedowns in BJJ, so you might as well just take BJJ instead." Except I wouldn't say that, because I'm not a retard.

    The truth is, the classes are probably going to have very different focuses, and the original poster is probably going to learn very different skills at the two schools.
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    I'm aware of the point you are making Garbanzo.

    I can only speak from my experiance and my Judo club has its fair share of groundfighting. But I cannot comment on the quality of Judo in America.

    My point was Judo will give him/should give a solid grappling base both in stand up and on the ground but I realise this may vary from club to club.

    But anyway I said he should go with what is closer. Thats important.

    If BJJ is 5 mins from his house than go with that. I was in a similar situation. I wanted to take either Judo or BJJ. The nearest BJJ club was a 50 min drive away and they wanted $100- per month in fees. My Judo club is a 2 min drive from my house and all they want is $7- per class.

    No contest.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal
    doble leg takedown, ankle locks,guilotine chockes and so forth are only outlawed in competition.
    You train Judo? Since when is morote gari illegal?
    Last edited by PointyShinyBurn; 3/15/2006 7:06am at .
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