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  1. Kintama is offline

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    ryoute: The art of double hand grappling

    Has anyone heard of this?

    http://www.ryoute.com/
    Ryoute could be described as ‘the art of double hand grappling’. This means that both hands are used in grappling. However ‘grappling’ can mean different things in different martial arts. In Ryoute ‘grappling’ means using your hands to grab any part of your training partner’s arms (usually the wrists). So head locks, rugby tackles and other standard wrestling techniques are not allowed. Ryoute is not wrestling.
    wrist grappling = a sort of sub-crappling? if I'm not mistaken.

    http://www.ryoute.com/awaveofconfidence1.asp

    * The range looks too far away and impracticle.
    * Seems compliant (attacker holding attacks out, holding on to wrists too long).
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    3/09/2006 7:42am


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    I will admit, that at first I thought this was a joke, until I saw the number of videos on their site. After all most advanced TMA guys will complain about the stupid wrist grab applications of Karate Kata.

    However I think this one is based on Wing Chun Chi Sao:

    Video Link to ryoute montage

    Now this version is set to music and at times holding hands with your partner. Ok, so its Wing Chun Dancing Chi Sao, a new low.

    I give you: Blindfold Chi Sao by the Ryoute:

    And some traditional WC positions, from the ryoute home page:
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    Ryoute could be described as ‘the art of double hand grappling’.
    As compared, of course, to other styles which use the "one-hand tied behind the back" grappling.

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    Or it could be described as "two handed crappling" or _ing _un's retarded little sister.
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    What is the sound of one hand crappling?

    Two handed grappling...so one hand tickles the balls while the other...never mind.
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    I agree, the videos whow the partners do look very compiant, and they turn their backs to thier opponents all the time. From what I see, there are a million opportunities for stirkes, but none taken.
    It also seems, that while they gave it a "Japanese name" it was developed in UK and is a mixture of mostly WC and some Karate.

    from thier site:
    "Ryoute is a style of 'Double Hand Grappling' and 'Grid Grappling' that was developed in the United Kingdom by Martin Clewett and Ian Alexander.

    'Double Hand Grappling' is a name that was given to an art developed by Martin Clewett and Robert Wall whilst researching the field of 'Karate Kata Bunkai' with help from Ian Alexander and Karl Hawkins and influenced by the work of Nathan Johnson and his associates.

    'Grid Grappling' is a name that was given to an art developed by Martin Clewett and Ian Alexander whilst researching the forms Sui-Nim-Tao, Chum-Kiu, Biu-Tze, Muk-Yan-Chong, Sanchin, Rokushu. Also influenced by the work of Nathan Johnson and his associates"
  7. Kintama is offline

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    in all fairness, there are probably some kick-ass moves for when someone tries to steal the remote or hogs your favorite PS2 controller.
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    The art of "two hand grappling" refers to the techniques of chicken-chocking-fu using both hands!!!!
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    3/09/2006 1:19pm


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    I can see these guys saying to each other:

    "That street fighter isnt so tough, just watch what happens if he grabs both my wrists and does nothing else...and my drums are playing of course."
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