Even Aikidoka think Aikido is fake

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 7:32pm

That's a pretty gross thing to say about Aikido when (I understand) the original students of O-Sensei were actually, like, able to fight.

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 7:40pm

Originally Posted by Coyote

I was thinking of either Segal or Norris.

Segal, dude. Norris has nothing to do with Aikido.

**TehDeadlyDimMak** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 7:44pm

The online Aikido community seems like it's filled with nice people.

The online Aikido community also seems full of brainwashed people.

THEREFORE, once again bad things happen to nice people.

**Doctor X** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 8:13pm

This comment from a teacher describing a challenge from an Aikido instructor sort of sums it all up:

So he comes close to me like this [Demonstrates Controling Position of Doom--Ed.] and says, "Now you can do nothing!"

So I sweep him.

He gets up from the mat and says, "Okay . . . you can do that."

It amazes me that people can consider willful ignorance a virtue.

--J.D.

**Mr. Jones** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 8:31pm

It seems they plan to reproduce. http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showth...338#post134338

**Invictus** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 9:53pm

The Kyokushin of aikido is Daito-ryu. Sadly, you don't see many skilled practitioners of DRAJJ in Japan, much less abroad. They're intensely secretive about their art, and it takes forever to learn, but it is effective from what little I've been privileged to see.

**wagamichi** · Posted On: 3/08/2006 11:13pm

This stuff is kindof hard core...look at the vids. They are local here in indy and they get banged up preaty good. Still dancy but better than Aikido.

http://www.aiki-jutsu.com/

**Fitz** · Posted On: 3/09/2006 12:15am

Originally Posted by Mr. Jones

How much of the 17 basic techniques do you know? Your randori is like Yoga interesting. Based on your comment I guess you won't be attending the Tomiki tournament this fall in New York.

It might help to know a bit about yoga beyond simply the "Hindu Funny Bending" sense. Eliade's book on Yoga is a good start though Zimmer is more fun. It's an issue of aim and orientation not method.

As far as the tourny cycle goes, most likely not but not for the reason you probably thing. Love Higashi Sensei like the Teacher he is but when you're an "old man" other things in your life take a priority.

**Fitz** · Posted On: 3/09/2006 12:17am

Originally Posted by Shinshoryu

I gave you the benefit of the doubt so I chose to believe the 1st. Now I see neither one was right. You tried it (who knows for how long), didn’t liked it, and came up with that conclusion. That’s ok, just another personal opinion.

Who said I didn't like it? Recognizing something for what it is and what it was designed to be according to the words of its founder is not the same as casting aspersions on it.

**Shinshoryu** · Posted On: 3/09/2006 7:00am

Originally Posted by Fitz

Who said I didn't like it? Recognizing something for what it is and what it was designed to be according to the words of its founder is not the same as casting aspersions on it.

Would you mind quoting the words of the Founder that helped you (but none of his direct students as far as I know) realize this ultimate truth?.