Even Aikidoka think Aikido is fake

**Doctor X** · Posted On: 3/10/2006 5:56pm

All I know is practicing Jesus-Fu is a bad way to spend your Friday afternoon. . . .

--J.D.

**fluffy bunny** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 2:29am

A guy who used to do Ju Jitsu at the same dojo as me became convinced that the aikido he was also doing had to be superior due to all its nice coherent theoretical basis. Having done about a year of Ju Jitsu he gave it up and went off to train in aikido.

A few months later he told me he had just got into a bar fight and that he had just naturally used aikido as it was so much more intuitive than ju jitsu. I enquired as to the outcome. The guy was forced to admit that he had got utterly creamed by an untrained brawler, BUT STILL INSISTED THAT AIKIDO WAS MORE EFFECTIVE AS IT HAD BEEN HIS AUTOMATIC RESPONSE TO VIOLENCE. :lol:

You fight how you train.

**DCS** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 5:39am

Well, Aikido bashing month? lol

No time at this moment to ellaborate, but basically, if you haven't previous training in a martial art/sport or crosstrain, you won't learn how to figth training aikido only because the usual lack of aliveness in aikido classes.

If you have a "delivery system" you can integrate aikido techniques and principles in it to develope your own fighting style.

More to come, stay tuned :)

**Coyote** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 7:08am

W...T...F...

**Fearless Ukemi** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 8:11am

Originally Posted by Coyote

W...T...F...

World Taekwondo Federation? I thought this was an aikido bashing thread?

**Fearless Ukemi** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 8:16am

Originally Posted by fluffy bunny

A guy who used to do Ju Jitsu at the same dojo as me became convinced that the aikido he was also doing had to be superior due to all its nice coherent theoretical basis. Having done about a year of Ju Jitsu he gave it up and went off to train in aikido.

A few months later he told me he had just got into a bar fight and that he had just naturally used aikido as it was so much more intuitive than ju jitsu. I enquired as to the outcome. The guy was forced to admit that he had got utterly creamed by an untrained brawler, BUT STILL INSISTED THAT AIKIDO WAS MORE EFFECTIVE AS IT HAD BEEN HIS AUTOMATIC RESPONSE TO VIOLENCE. :lol:

You fight how you train.

The thing about aikido is that if you **** up, you MUST resort to grappling. You really only get a split second to make it work and if you find yourself struggling to execute a technique, you already fucked it up. Any aikidoka who say they don't need to crosstrain are just kidding themselves.

**Mr. Jones** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 9:07am

Originally Posted by Coyote

W...T...F...

You haven't met DCS before have you.

**Porrig** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 1:18pm

Originally Posted by Fearless Ukemi

The thing about aikido is that if you **** up, you MUST resort to grappling. You really only get a split second to make it work and if you find yourself struggling to execute a technique, you already fucked it up. Any aikidoka who say they don't need to crosstrain are just kidding themselves.

Wise words.

**FredGarvinMP** · Posted On: 3/11/2006 5:38pm

Originally Posted by DCS

Well, Aikido bashing month? lol

No time at this moment to ellaborate, but basically, if you haven't previous training in a martial art/sport or crosstrain, you won't learn how to figth training aikido only because the usual lack of aliveness in aikido classes.

If you have a "delivery system" you can integrate aikido techniques and principles in it to develope your own fighting style.

More to come, stay tuned :)

Well said. Aikido is a great supplement, but if that's the only string in your bow, you're delusional.