Defense against the Guard slam

**elipson** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 6:40pm

Anyone have any good strategies for this?

This is something that seems to get neglected a lot, seeing how its illegal in grappling tournaments so guys don't really bother training it.

Getting slammed on a good crash matt is unpleasant to say the least; but getting slammed on something hard would be pretty bad. And its something that a lot of big guys try when they first come into the dojo.

So what's the best bet? I'm thinking open the guard and try and stand, if you have enough time.

**losttrak** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 7:00pm

Anytime he tries to raise up, grab his heel and sweep him?

**JohnnyS** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 8:03pm

Why keep your legs closed? There are many types of guard that won't cause you to be injured by holding on too long. Closed guard isn't one of them.

**Banjo(THE)Great** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 8:27pm

I have a friend who's been doing BJJ for around 5 years and I wrestle with him constantly. As I have no experience with the art, and what I practice involves no rules, I grapple dirty as anything with him. Usually when I go to slam him he'll either reach forward and pick my ankle, or sometimes he'll try to go for an aerial sort of armbar.

Hope this helps.

**Yrkoon9** · Posted On: 3/07/2006 1:04am

Drop elbows on his face and then bite off his nose while he is unconscious. Guard slammers make me angry.

**Vulgar** · Posted On: 3/07/2006 4:10am

When he begins to pick you up, turn over and grab his leg with your hands. Release your closed guard, and go for a knee bar. This should also work if they are trying to armbar slam or triangle choke slam you too. Of course, you have to be quick with it, but a lot of the time they are concentrating on just escaping they don't see it coming.

***Cassius*** · Posted On: 3/07/2006 2:24pm

Originally Posted by Vulgar

When he begins to pick you up, turn over and grab his leg with your hands. Release your closed guard, and go for a knee bar. This should also work if they are trying to armbar slam or triangle choke slam you too. Of course, you have to be quick with it, but a lot of the time they are concentrating on just escaping they don't see it coming.

Encouraging people with little to no ground grappling experience to go for a kneebar is a horrible idea. Start learning open guard before you get crazy with leglocks in a non-supervised environment.

Like I said last night in class to a new guy, leglocks are great, but you need to learn how to pass the guard first. Learn open guard and sweeps before you try submitting people that stand up in your guard.