We have not seen real kung fu yet..?!

**NakMuay** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:26pm

http://www.shaolin-wahnam.org/kungfuq1.html#fighting

This guy claims a lot about 'real' kung fu beign invincible and that it could easily beat Karate, Kickboxing and Muay Thai.

What do you think about his 'real' kung fu as he describes it?
Is this guy talking sence or is he just living in a fantasy in Kung-Fu-Pwns-All World??

Why didn't 'real' kung fu practicioners enter tournaments to show what they've got?

Is Kung Fu really a great fighting system when done properly??

This guy seems full of ****, what do you think??

**Yrkoon9** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:32pm

I think, without even clicking your link, that JFS is very close. Be carefull. A Gong Sau challenge is nearby.

**Gumby** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:34pm

I remember something being posted on the guy a while back on bullshido-

Some people, no matter how much evidence amounts against them, feel that instead of crosstraining they simply need to study their kung fu/krotty/ninjitsu more.

Even if every kung fu fighter in the world decided to fight, I have a feeling people would still be writing about the real kung fu and how we havent seen it.

Jason DeLucia does a great job with his kung fu in mixed martial arts- why cant they be content with that? Lets not forget that Omega had a 3-2 professional run either with his kung fu.

*EDIT*

from the link:

"I wish to share another secret with you. My master Sifu Ho Fatt Nam, who has dedicated his life to helping others, was once attacked by more than 30 armed attackers whose objective was to kill him and his family for reasons I would not disclose here. He fought them off. My master could have killed their leader and some other assassins "

I'm willing to bet that he didnt witness this incident, but rather his sifu told him about it...

"If you have seen a judo match, you would have noticed how long it takes, even for a judo expert, to throw his opponent. If the opponent just jabs two fingers into the expert's eyes, or, less brutally, kicks hard at his shin, he would have foiled the expert's throw. But of course for those who are untrained, or who are trained in kungfu dance, such kicks and throws as well as martial techniques of the other sports would be formidable"

Maybe it takes quite long for a Judo expert to throw his opponent perhaps because hes fighting another Judo expert?

Yoshida, Parysian, and Fedor havent had much trouble with their Judo throws, and it doesnt take them long at all.

**NakMuay** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:40pm

I found some sparring clips aswell..

It doesn't really impress me though..

http://www.wongkk.com/general/videos...ree%20Sparring

Im sure someone who knows how to box would knock these guys out, but that's just my thought....

**Mr. Mantis** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:41pm

Originally Posted by NakMuay

Is Kung Fu really a great fighting system when done properly??

This guy seems full of ****, what do you think??

Well, not that kung fu.

**Fantasy Warrior** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:43pm

Search Function Noob!!!!
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ghlight=wanham
Funny vids there too...

Anyway, must see vids... http://wongkk.com/video-clips/boxing/overview.html

**Street_Fighter** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:43pm

Actually this doesn't seem TOO bad... At least from the very little that I read. He does not claim to be a good fighter or aim to be. It seems that he trains primarily for health but keeps the stance of 'kung fu can be applied if trained properly', which even most on bullshido seem to say. This did get me a bit though...

"Skipping over a rope and lifting weights, prancing about and donning boxing groves are not traditional Shaolin ways to develop force and train sparring. It is only sensible that if one wishes to fight like what a Shaolin exponent would do in the past, he or she must train the way a traditional Shaolin disciple did. But for various reasons, many people lack the knowledge or the patience to do so."

He does mention that one needs sparring to fight, and strength training. He DOES say that the majority of kung fu blows, which isn't as bad as what is usually said because he doesn't really claim to have the 'real kung fu'... I don't know. I'll read more later.

**TehDeadlyDimMak** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:44pm

Originally Posted by NakMuay

http://www.shaolin-wahnam.org/kungfuq1.html#fighting

This guy claims a lot about 'real' kung fu beign invincible and that it could easily beat Karate, Kickboxing and Muay Thai.

What do you think about his 'real' kung fu as he describes it?
Is this guy talking sence or is he just living in a fantasy in Kung-Fu-Pwns-All World??

Why didn't 'real' kung fu practicioners enter tournaments to show what they've got?

Is Kung Fu really a great fighting system when done properly??

This guy seems full of ****, what do you think??

If there's one person who isn't doing KF properly it's this guy.

If this guy's KF is so good why doesn't he go dominate the SanShou circuit in China?

**Ronin.74** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:49pm

If you go to the bottom the page you linked and click on Wong Kit kew homepage you can navigate your way to a section of video clips. I couldn't watch a lot of them because they are in quick time and I don't have that on my work computer, but the ones I could watch didn't look like "free sparring". He claims that the students are "free sparring" and that all of the techniques are spontaneous, that none of it is pre arranged sets. It all looked like pre arranged sets to me.

Can Kung Fu be effective if trained properly. Yes, it can. The problem is their are very few people who train it properly.

I am not going to call BS on this guy because I think more information is needed and we would need someone who has acutually sparred some of these guys who is not part of their organization to get a fair judgement on their abilities. But I do have to question their "free sparring" claims.

**PO9** · Posted On: 3/06/2006 2:51pm

"If you have seen a judo match, you would have noticed how long it takes, even for a judo expert, to throw his opponent. If the opponent just ... kicks hard at his shin, he would have foiled the expert's throw.

sasae-tsurikomi-ashi?

deashi-harai

hiza-guruma?

any of the many judo foot sweeps?

I get more bruises on my shins from those than just about anything else.

Me thinks he knows diddly about judo.