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    Kyokushin Vs Taikiken

    Here's a video of Kancho Matsui taking on some of the Taikiken* boys (note: this is not Taichi but something closer to Hsing Yi or Yi Quan). There seems to be some relationship between the two arts (as in social, not art-wise) with there being alot of cross-training among the senior Kyokushin fighters. Royama for example.

    However, Taikiken is blatantly getting its arse kicked here:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=L6__TdKBRjc&search=Kyokushin

    Then again, it's Kancho Matsui.



    *From what I see on the video, the Kanji translates roughly to "Grand Chi Fist"

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    Taikiken what the Japanese call YIQUAN. Kenichi Sawaii learned Yiquan in China and came back to Japan to teach it but changed the name to Taikiken. Many Kyokushin guys xtrained Taikiken (even Oyama studied it)



    note: Taiji in japanese is TAIKYOKUKEN. (Grand Extreme Fist)
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    Ooo!!! KK with the face punches! :fist:

    P.S. I liked this street-fighting video and thought it was more realistic: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SonXLEHRO5s&search=Kyokushin
    Last edited by Dagon Akujin; 3/02/2006 1:56pm at . Reason: added stupid video

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    the first video is good. the second is staged(?)
    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
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    What would you say are the characteristics of Yi Quan, especially ones that compliment KK. I tried to to google it but I'm at work right now. I kind of understand how Tai Chi Chuan would compliment KK, but I'm unfamiliar with Yi Quan.

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    Tai Chi could provide the cannon fodder for the KK guys?
    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD ASIA
    Taikiken what the Japanese call YIQUAN. Kenichi Sawaii learned Yiquan in China and came back to Japan to teach it but changed the name to Taikiken. Many Kyokushin guys xtrained Taikiken (even Oyama studied it)



    note: Taiji in japanese is TAIKYOKUKEN. (Grand Extreme Fist)
    Beat me to it, Asia.

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    Thanks for clearing it up Asia & Bukkake, I mean, Bugeisha.


    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    What would you say are the characteristics of Yi Quan, especially ones that compliment KK. I tried to to google it but I'm at work right now. I kind of understand how Tai Chi Chuan would compliment KK, but I'm unfamiliar with Yi Quan.

    Force generation perhaps? The Yi Quan people have traditionally known to be powerful.

    So... what is your understanding about how TCC would compliment KK?

    I'm doing a little TCC now and from what I gather, TCC will give an exponent proper body coordination - force is generated by the body as a whole, which leads to more power and TCC also helps sensitivity (so you don't have to take so much pain!). It seems TCC is a compliment to your base in an external art. TCC alone will not really get you anywhere. i.e. You must know how to fight before TCC can help you.

    Kinda like stroke-checking for a competitive swimmer.

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    Hi,
    what about a supposed original challenge between Sawai and Masutatsu Oyama, plus 10 + 10 of their respective students, where Oyama and his student cutted a so poor figure so that Oyama was convinced to study Taikiken?
    This is a version given by Kenji Tokitsu.
    Do you know more about that?

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    too bad the vids got removed, I'd have like to see em

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