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  1. Odacon is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote
    All my Krotty stuff comes from personal experience.
    Some of mine is aswell, sigh.

    Krotty is: "No, your holding me too tight, in a real situation you attacker would keep his grip loose so he can hit you, very loose now..."
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    Krotty is thinking that a clinch and knee strategy will work every time on a BJJ artist.
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    Krotty is : "Shihan": Ok grab my arm...No the other arm...No the same arm...I mean use your left and grab my right...turn your hand over...grab me like this...Ok. If an attaker grabs you like this class..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote
    Krotty is a 5ft, 450lb man named "Melvin" in a Ninja suit.
    All my Krotty stuff comes from personal experience.
    My gods! In that case all I can say is "Thatīs not ass. Thatīs a spacestation."
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    I think behind the suckage there is obviously some cultural forces at work. For example of the Americans learning Okanowin (sp) Karate, there were a few who lived on this island in the 1950s with the interest in actually learning japanese language and culture. This did not necessarily make them great fighters, what it did what ensure that they had enough cultural chops not to adopt some of the stupider cultural trappings of American Krotty.

    Then there were the service men, usually Marines, who studied these arts as fighting tools, I'm specifically thinking of men like Joe Lewis, and Gary Alexander. Tough men, who practiced at a different level of contact and committment then today's strip mall dojo.

    I should mention that I had a former karate instructor named Don Nelson when I was a kid who studied on Okanowia as a Marine and he absolutely hated the trappings of Krotty.

    But once you get instructors who are at least a generation removed from ever having visited this Island you start seeing the weird cultural ad ons that make American Krotty so ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    I think behind the suckage there is obviously some cultural forces at work. For example of the Americans learning Okanowin (sp) Karate, there were a few who lived on this island in the 1950s with the interest in actually learning japanese language and culture. This did not necessarily make them great fighters, what it did what ensure that they had enough cultural chops not to adopt some of the stupider cultural trappings of American Krotty.

    Then there were the service men, usually Marines, who studied these arts as fighting tools, I'm specifically thinking of men like Joe Lewis, and Gary Alexander. Tough men, who practiced at a different level of contact and committment then today's strip mall dojo.

    I should mention that I had a former karate instructor named Don Nelson when I was a kid who studied on Okanowia as a Marine and he absolutely hated the trappings of Krotty.

    But once you get instructors who are at least a generation removed from ever having visited this Island you start seeing the weird cultural ad ons that make American Krotty so ridiculous.
    Interesting post. Thanks!!!

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    That is informative Sam .But it does not explain how is it that those Marine and Air-force service personnel left Okinawa in the 50's with a shodan and 30 years later have magically become 10th Dans in a system that obviously has not kept any ties with the organization back in Japan.

    You can thank the President of ITF of TKD for the whe whole musical Katas he allowed to be introduced into TKD in the early 80's.

    And also the Red Gi tops with blue pants are just cool.
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    I've heard the way one gets the 10th dan, is to look through Okanowa for a martial arts master hard up on cash, and arrange a cerimony. Now that's heresay, and I can't prove it, but its what the gossip is.
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    We want names!Also why are you spelling it Okanowa and I'm spelling it okinawa.
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    Has anyone heard the story of the Okinawan taxi driver who got his hands on a load hand written certificates from a deceased Karate master an made a fortune selling them to American servicemen?
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