Steam roller guard pass?

**babo78** · Posted On: 2/23/2006 10:31am

http://stonesforstrength.com/steam%20roller.htm

I was surfing around and found this guard pass. At 5th picture, it looks like perfect setup for double ankle sweep. Anyway, is this worth while guard pass to try or is it totall bullshido technique?

**Ronin.74** · Posted On: 2/23/2006 10:53am

I'm no grappling expert, but a skilled grappler is going to transition into at least another position before you can complete that technique and I have been taught how to armbar when someone comes too far over top of you in that matter.

So I would say no this is not a good idea against a trained grappler.

**Gezere** · Posted On: 2/23/2006 10:58am

Originally Posted by babo78

http://stonesforstrength.com/steam%20roller.htm

I was surfing around and found this guard pass. At 5th picture, it looks like perfect setup for double ankle sweep. Anyway, is this worth while guard pass to try or is it totall bullshido technique?

DAMNIT I need to start trademarking these things!!! :mad:

It not a high percentage pass but it does work and good to catch pple off gaurd with. I've done it myself. I found its best when the person is going for high guard (legs above your waste) You have have to get them on their shoulder and neck and if you keep your legs back they would beable to ankle sweep. For me I squat back slightly and explode over them so they are in the WTF mode (ie not thinking of of anything but trying not to get hurt). If they open their legs, great. If not by for a boston crab.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 2/23/2006 11:14am

I have been taught that pass with a heel hook finish. The problem is that if the guy on the bottom is paying attention he can spin to his back before you get ahold of his foot and land the inverted heel hook at the same time. Both of you lose but the guy on top loses more.

**Darkpaladin** · Posted On: 2/23/2006 11:57am

Actually, I've used that pass to counter the double ankle sweep. All your weight is forward and there's no possible way they can push you backwards.
It's also in Royler's book "Submission Techniques" with a heel hook to finish.

**babo78** · Posted On: 2/23/2006 12:23pm

Ok, thank you very much. From what everyone is saying, sounds like best used as surprise pass but medium or low % sucess and carries risk of being inverted heel hooked.

I'll try that out next time I roll...hmm maybe not. Noob like me would probalby screw this up and end up neck cranking my partner badly if I try this when I'm rolling.