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  1. judoguy is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    A "glass and a half of wine a day" is only healthy if you've already had aheart attack or are a cardiac patient or whatever. It works in a similar way that chemotherpay does with cancer patients in the sense that, once you have the disease it can help make you better. If, however, you are already healthy, it is bad for you.
  2. KnuckleMeister is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    AFAIK it's WORSE to smoke just a few here and then, as your body never manages to develop tolerances against all the crap you put into it.

    Also in terms of fitness, one of the ingredients in the smoke binds lipids in the blood and makes you a fatass. Reference for this: Dr. Mike Stroud's "Survival Of The Fittest" (a book not about RSBD but running multimarathons in the Sahara and crossing the antarctica on foot, unsupported)
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    2/21/2006 6:36am


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I smoke a few rollie cigarettes a week, and it hasnt made a difference to my fitness. But most people can't smoke like that.
  4. Pandinha is offline

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    It makes a huge difference. Former 2 pack smoker here, 24 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    2/21/2006 6:53am


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    40 or 50 cigarettes a day, well of course it does.
  6. Pandinha is offline

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    supporting memberhall of famestaff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian5
    40 or 50 cigarettes a day, well of course it does.
    It started with 1 to 2 smokes a day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    smoking simply cannot be defended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoguy
    A "glass and a half of wine a day" is only healthy if you've already had aheart attack or are a cardiac patient or whatever. It works in a similar way that chemotherpay does with cancer patients in the sense that, once you have the disease it can help make you better. If, however, you are already healthy, it is bad for you.
    Any proof to back that up? I have yet to read anything which says that 1-2 glasses of red wine a day was only good for you if you've already had a heart attack. Your reasoning doesn't even make sense. Furthermore, your chemo example makes even less sense. :icon_scra
  9. babo78 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shard
    Nicotine has been shown to help reduce the chances of brain diseases such as Alzhimers and Parkisons.
    So, Could smoking in low to moderate amounts be such a bad thing after all?

    [Edit: I'm not advocating smoking or anything. Puffing **** into your lungs does wonders to your stamina and your life expectancy.]
    It's the tar that kills you not the nicotine. If you want to see good example, goto THE BODIES exhibition in NYC or somehing similiar around the globe. There is a pair of smoker's lungs and a pair of non-smoker's lungs on display.

    Smoker's lungs are all black from tar.
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    2/21/2006 9:36am


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    Arnold smokes cigars, has done since his bodybuilding days

    But cigars usually aren't inhaled.
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