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  1. Gypsy Jazz is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    Has anyone used anything like this
    http://www.combatsports.com/detail.aspx?ID=22428
    I saw them in a store and thought they were really cool. After a LOT of work cutting them down so that the fabric doesn't bend like crazy, they're alright. Faster to put on than regular wraps by a long shot, better knuckle protection and no untangling mess and comparable wrist support.

    I cut away the thumb and pinky loops because it makes the material bend in a very uncomfortable way for my hand. I thought I wouldn't mind it at a later time, but I was oh so wrong. I didn't get used to it at all and ended up putting them away for hiding until it occured to me I could maim them into something better. I think if you cut them to fit yourself they'd be nice to slip on under some gloves. They're very useful if you don't have the time to put on proper wraps.

    Overall I'd say that they're a waste of money unless you have the patience to make them fit yourself perfectly, or are contantly in a hurry and can adjust to annoyances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeice
    What I find weird is that I've been punching since I was 6 and never wrapped, do regular intensive bagwork and never have a problem beyond the occasional bit of torn skin (used to happen years ago, not anymore) and never really had a problem. I tried wrapping for a muay thai class at one point, felt weird even before hitting, but when I hit something it hurt me a ridiculous amount, I immediately tookt hem off and never wore them again. Stupid handwraps.

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    People get arthritis after doing nothing their entire lives, if I end up with it because I did something at least I don't have to sit around and bitch about bad genetics, I'll brag about "back when I was a crazy young guy who fucked his body up the old fashioned way!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    Has anyone used anything like this
    http://www.combatsports.com/detail.aspx?ID=22428
    I have been using those. Havent had any of the problems GypsyJazz has had, but i have worn out the fabric between the finger holes fairly fast. Which is annoying because the rest is still pefectly good but now the knuckle part will move around. They probably need to make that part out of a different materia. But the wrist support and padding are both very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    Has anyone used anything like this
    http://www.combatsports.com/detail.aspx?ID=22428

    I tried them once because i couple of my friends had them. They protect the knuckles pretty well but the thumb and the top of my fist seemed and felt too exposed for them to feel too effective. But they do take 5 seconds to put on.
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    If you punch properly, you don't even need wraps. However, it takes time to ween yourself off of them if you've been training with them.

    Wraps "protect" your wrist and tendons at the expense of atrophy. It's much like a weight belt. Many powerlifters and olympic lifters prefer to actually strengthen the core taht the weightbelt as designed to protect instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiboxerken
    If you punch properly, you don't even need wraps. However, it takes time to ween yourself off of them if you've been training with them.

    Wraps "protect" your wrist and tendons at the expense of atrophy. It's much like a weight belt. Many powerlifters and olympic lifters prefer to actually strengthen the core taht the weightbelt as designed to protect instead.

    What he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiboxerken
    If you punch properly, you don't even need wraps. However, it takes time to ween yourself off of them if you've been training with them.

    Wraps "protect" your wrist and tendons at the expense of atrophy. It's much like a weight belt. Many powerlifters and olympic lifters prefer to actually strengthen the core taht the weightbelt as designed to protect instead.
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     Style: BJJ, Judo

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    I have actually been doing quite a bit of workout without wraps lately. Perhaps I should just keep that up.
    Could wrap for fights, but stay without for the most part.
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     Style: Does exercise count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiboxerken
    If you punch properly, you don't even need wraps. However, it takes time to ween yourself off of them if you've been training with them.

    Wraps "protect" your wrist and tendons at the expense of atrophy. It's much like a weight belt. Many powerlifters and olympic lifters prefer to actually strengthen the core taht the weightbelt as designed to protect instead.
    Wouldn't doing grip exercises prevent atrophy even if you always wrapped to hit the bag? I really don't know, but using a wrist roller, finger tip push ups and other exercises of the sort seem like they would improve strength in the long run. Someone please correct me on this if I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Jazz
    Wouldn't doing grip exercises prevent atrophy even if you always wrapped to hit the bag? I really don't know, but using a wrist roller, finger tip push ups and other exercises of the sort seem like they would improve strength in the long run. Someone please correct me on this if I'm wrong.
    Not necessarily wrong, but there's a difference between the kind of wrist strength you built using a roller compared to bracing your wrist in place the split second you impact the bag.
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