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  1. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    One of the guys at our gym had some nasty CE a couple weeks ago. He had it drained, but it just swelled up again and it started bleeding after he did some rolling and it was naaaasty.
    Did he tape/compress it after draining it????
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
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    Hypothesis: Incidence of caulliflower ear is inversely proportional to level of bullshido.

    Evidence:
    CE: Judo, wrestling, boxing, bjj, kickboxing, rugby.
    No CE: Figure skating.

    Inference: CE, a disfiguring and unattractive injury, is a consequence of training and competing in fighting styles that aren't bullshit. No one wants it, some of us are susceptable to it.


    Discuss.
    I was under the impression that bullshido meant for fraud and BS in the martial arts. If a karate school is setup to train kids to do forms, and compete in point sparring, and lets their parents know that, is it bullshido? McDojo for sure, but bullshido?

    Another counter point would be backyard brawling/wrestling. There is more of a chance that some kid is going to get his ear mangled with a 2X4 wrapped in barbed wire, than a kendoka wearing full armor or a kyokushin full contact fighter. Does this validate backyard wrestling, while disproving kendo or kyokushin?

    I do not belive cauliflower ear is a good litmus test for bullshido. McDojo, more so, as belt factories are setup for profit, and people getting injured is bad business in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elnyka
    Did he tape/compress it after draining it????

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    Quote Originally Posted by isol8d
    I was under the impression that bullshido meant for fraud and BS in the martial arts. If a karate school is setup to train kids to do forms, and compete in point sparring, and lets their parents know that, is it bullshido? McDojo for sure, but bullshido?

    Another counter point would be backyard brawling/wrestling. There is more of a chance that some kid is going to get his ear mangled with a 2X4 wrapped in barbed wire, than a kendoka wearing full armor or a kyokushin full contact fighter. Does this validate backyard wrestling, while disproving kendo or kyokushin?

    I do not belive cauliflower ear is a good litmus test for bullshido. McDojo, more so, as belt factories are setup for profit, and people getting injured is bad business in general.
    Fraud = calling something martial art when there is no martial involved.
    And as demonstrated it isn't perfect (e.g. differential susceptability and backyard fighting and wrestling). Nonetheless as a rule of thumb I'm guessing it works.


    I'm also guessing you had no idea what it was until this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    Fraud = calling something martial art when there is no martial involved.
    Fraud = saying your XMA team could do kicks and flips over attackers, and bring the pain down on their opponents.

    *NOT*

    saying your XMA team has a fun time and gets a good workout while impressing chicks at parties.

    You can't call fraud on something just because it calls itself a MA, even if it's 98% art and only 2% martial. You can call bullshido on something that calls itself the be-all-and-end-all to martial art if it sucks ass, even if it's 98% martial and 2% full-of-****.

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    If it says martial in the name, and you can't fight for ****. It is bullshido.
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    Cauliflower ear was fairly common among Boxers in the past. Itís much less prevalent today because they donít fight as often, wear heavier gloves, and also wear larger heavier headgear when sparring. The pre 1920ís Boxers often fought wearing 4 and 6 ounce gloves which were about the size of modern speed bag gloves. Cauliflower ear was even worse for the bare-knuckle boxers in the 1800ís because of all of the standup wrestling and holding and hitting that they were allowed to get away with.
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