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    ya know, if a boxer wins by ground and pound, you can't really attribute his win to boxing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Can Opener
    Who are the 2/3 you are referring to?

    Read the article.

    Jeff Frater No Contest.

    Scott Hamm loses.

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    Frater didn't fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Read the article.

    Jeff Frater No Contest.

    Scott Hamm loses.

    "Kyle picked up Rafael and from the armbar and slipped out to settle himself in a full horse position to send wicked punches to the face of the Rafael. Eight strong punches each landed all while the crowd was cheering Olsen, Olsen, Olsen. One last hit and referee Larry Landless waved his arms to signal that Rafael was knocked out and as they say.........the crowd went wild!!!"

    I must have missed the "punches from a full horse" class at Machado's.

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    NC=No contest he was injured.
    Scott Ham Lost.

    Okay, 50/50 record does it help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Can Opener
    "Kyle picked up Rafael and from the armbar and slipped out to settle himself in a full horse position to send wicked punches to the face of the Rafael. Eight strong punches each landed all while the crowd was cheering Olsen, Olsen, Olsen. One last hit and referee Larry Landless waved his arms to signal that Rafael was knocked out and as they say.........the crowd went wild!!!"

    I must have missed the "punches from a full horse" class at Machado's.

    But you were there for the San Soo class on armbar escapes?

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    Where was the San Soo "reactionary" methods being applied in that fight? Eight punches to the face doesn't sound right. It should've have been:

    1. Punch to the face, which causes head to turn followed by
    2. Punch to neck which causes left foot to spazm followed by
    3. Punch to the knee to cause opponent to urinate followed by
    4. Punch to the heart to cause knock out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiboxerken
    San Soo works great, if you crosstrain in BJJ and Muay Thai.
    You have distilled it down to its essence.

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    Salomao needs to find something other than BJJ and MT to train in so he doesn't get his ass knocked out like last time.

    Maybe he was just resting his eyes.

    Remember what happened to Walid when he fought Salomao's mentor?

    Why didn't he use his BJJ on Carvalho?

    Appearently it takes more than BJJ to beat someone trained in MT and Judo.

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    That depends on who does the BJJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Can Opener
    Salomao needs to find something other than BJJ and MT to train in so he doesn't get his ass knocked out like last time.

    Maybe he was just resting his eyes.

    Remember what happened to Walid when he fought Salomao's mentor?

    Why didn't he use his BJJ on Carvalho?

    Appearently it takes more than BJJ to beat someone trained in MT and Judo.

    Well Jeff Frater should do something other than San Soo. I would think he would be tired of getting KTFO. With a 50% success rate maybe Kyle should to. Damn same with Scott Hamm.

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