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  1. TehDeadlyDimMak is offline
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    Boxing is an essential, but incomplete stand up art I'd say.

    In full contact fighting there's obviously a need for kicks and grappling, but good punches are essential. Happy Kidspatula?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    Boxing is an essential, but incomplete stand up art I'd say.

    In full contact fighting there's obviously a need for kicks and grappling, but good punches are essential. Happy Kidspatula?
    no, because I wouldn't say that there is a need for kicks. They're useful, but not essential. Grappling is kind of a no brainer since you can't box too well with someone sitting on top of you.
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    Kraus defeated Buakaw in their K-1 match and threw, I believe, one kick the entire match (a spinning back kick, that missed). I would venture to say that boxing skills are far more important than kicking skills.
    I agree with you. Boxing/punching skills are more important than kicking skills. What I was saying is that if you take an excellent puncher and put them up against an equally skilled/conditioned opponent who knows how to punch AND kick, then the person who has more tools would have an advantage. I'm not saying the advantage can not be over come or that it is a huge fucking advantage....it is an advantage.


    edit: also, I would very much disagree with your last statement. Boxers have the advantage of specialising in a very powerful skillset, whereas the "more well rounded striker" that is a karateka/TKDer will not have anywhere near the hand skills and the kicking skills will more than likely not be as useful.
    I agree. Boxers have the advantage of specialising in a powerful skill set. I didn't say boxers didn't have any advantages, I just think that in a more open competition where both fighters are training their asses off for the ring that the player that has more tools at his disposal has an advantage.

    It comes down to the punching skill of the "well-rounded" artist. If they have very good punching skills, then kicking will give them an advantage. Take a boxer who spends some time learning how to kick and he will have an advantage over a pure boxer in a K-1 match. Take a TKDist who has poor punching skills and awewome kicking skill and he will probably lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    no, because I wouldn't say that there is a need for kicks. They're useful, but not essential. Grappling is kind of a no brainer since you can't box too well with someone sitting on top of you.
    Fine. Kicks are NOT essential I'd agree, but surely you agree they're useful?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    Fine. Kicks are NOT essential I'd agree, but surely you agree they're useful?

    Originally Posted by Kidspatula:
    no, because I wouldn't say that there is a need for kicks. They're useful, but not essential. Grappling is kind of a no brainer since you can't box too well with someone sitting on top of you.

    I love kicking. The only time I've ever dropped Kat in sparring was with a kick to the body.
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    Which is quite a feat because I'm pretty much invincible to body shots.
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    Ignashov destroyed Ray Mercer (was Ray Mercer or another -more or less- top boxer?) with low kicks. Of course, heīs a master of low kicks.

    What about boxing+MT elbows?
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    What about boxing+MT elbows?

    Dirty boxing for the win.

    Thats what I do.
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    Well, I didnīt mean it in the "dirty boxing" way, but more like boxing skills plus the MT elbows to base your striking game off, be it for the Str33t or for a MMA event that allows elbows.
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    ya know, so many people say muay thai is all about the elbows... I barely ever even practice elbows... maybe I should change my style field
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