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  1. Virus is offline
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    The Whoreian Gracie appeciation thread.

    Share with your community pieces of BS that Rorian has said (or done). Off the top of my head;

    1) He sued for excusive rights to use the term "Gracie Jujitsu".

    2) That "triangle me"guard pass.

    The next few are things said on Gracie Jujitsu In Action:

    3) He states that Judo players are familiar with "basic" ground-grappling. Hello, where does BJJ originate from? I know that some Judoka might not spend much time on newaza, but I believe most have more than "basic" newaza skills.

    4) He says that when he travelled to America he searched far and wide for a martial arts dojo that addressed the reality of ground-grappling. Did he visit any Judo dojos in that time? Submission wrestling? Sambo?

    5) He refers to Kimura several times as a Jujitsu fighter, he's a Judo fighter.

    6) He never mentions that it was Judo that was taught to Carlos by Maeda, and instead calls it Jujitsu.

    7) He suggests on his webpage that all grappling styles come from Gracie Jujitsu.

    That's all I can remember at the moment. Is Rorian ashamed of BJJ's Judo roots or something? Does Judo sound to sporty for a "street fighting style" to develop from?
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    I't s called Marketing. If it were not for Rorion Gracie, your ass would still be in Ninja school.

    Oh wait. You are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    This thread had potential until you turned into a Judo apologist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virus
    Share with your community pieces of BS that Rorian has said (or done). Off the top of my head;

    1) He sued for excusive rights to use the term "Gracie Jujitsu".

    2) That "triangle me"guard pass.

    The next few are things said on Gracie Jujitsu In Action:

    3) He states that Judo players are familiar with "basic" ground-grappling. Hello, where does BJJ originate from? I know that some Judoka might not spend much time on newaza, but I believe most have more than "basic" newaza skills.

    4) He says that when he travelled to America he searched far and wide for a martial arts dojo that addressed the reality of ground-grappling. Did he visit any Judo dojos in that time? Submission wrestling? Sambo?

    5) He refers to Kimura several times as a Jujitsu fighter, he's a Judo fighter.

    6) He never mentions that it was Judo that was taught to Carlos by Maeda, and instead calls it Jujitsu.

    7) He suggests on his webpage that all grappling styles come from Gracie Jujitsu.

    That's all I can remember at the moment. Is Rorian ashamed of BJJ's Judo roots or something? Does Judo sound to sporty for a "street fighting style" to develop from?
    1. And?
    2. And?
    3. Judo ground game and BJJ ground game not the same.
    4. Did he say he never found them?
    5. Okay, that pisses me off to. And?
    6. No...Maeda was one of Kano's main students but it was still known as Jujitsu back then. At least this is what I've been corrected on.
    7. Dude, use the search function this has already been discussed.

    Rorian likes to market his **** and it's fucking annoying. There, I agree with you now go find the other threads before I kick you in the vagina.
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    And here you go for BJJ and Judo link:

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30593
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    Quote Originally Posted by omega
    Quote Originally Posted by omega
    And here you go for BJJ and Judo link:

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30593
    Quote Originally Posted by omega

    In other words, thank you for putting this all in one place. Much appreciated!

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    You should have just written a Yrkoon9 appreciation thread on the amount of Rorion bashing I have done over the years. It might have gone over better.
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    3) He states that Judo players are familiar with "basic" ground-grappling.
    He's right.
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