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Thanks for all the good info folks this should help out alot. Getting in contact with some of these people over the next couple of weeks. Thanks again this helps out alot.
Yeah, I've seen that, and used to have it on tape. It was shown a few years back on the Discovery Channel, or the Learning Channel, I can't remember which. It was quite fascinating.
Originally Posted by elnyka
The participants fought with 8-10 foot staff, made from some local reed/vine. They'd wrap their head and hands in some sort of towels, to soften the blow. Then they'd wail away on each other. Since the weapons were so long they'd have to use a lot of body torque to get the thing going, but once it had momentum, they could really hit with some force. I didn't see any thrusting, only arced circular attacks with a lot of body twisting. Defensive tactics were mostly evasion, and I saw little blocking with the sticks. Generally offensive disruption seemed to be the primary method of defense.
The match would go until knockout or submission, when one player was unable to continue. The commentator stated that there were occasional deaths in matches, but that they weren't too common. Broken jaws, fingers, and other minor injuries were very common. Due to the abuse that a fighter would take, it was generally seen as a young man's sport, with older fighters serving as teachers/coaches. The young guys enjoyed the competition itself, but champions' social status was elevated, and they tended to get a lot of admiration from the ladies.
The matches that I saw on the show were between villages that were friendly rivals. It was noted that sometimes things got out of hand with the spirit of the competition, and fights often happened. The old timers really seemed to discourage anyone bringing guns, which apparently did happen sometimes.
I'll see if I can find a link to the program.
Yeah, that's the one. They wrapped their heads and hands with some sort of thick, yellowish-to-light-brown fabric. They wacked the crap out of each other. No trusting action as you mentioned.
Originally Posted by Ryno
If you find a link to it, please let us know. To the untrained eye, it would look like a bunch of people wacking at will, but to swing those things like that, I'm pretty sure that they must have techniques for doing so. Those dudes are tough!!!!
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I think this was it. Still not sure of the channel that it showed on though. You might be able to contact them about getting a copy.
I don't know I e-mailed the guy from Mukhanda enterprise and he told me they often have seminars nearby where I live. Apparently they're having some on Afro-Cuban Mani and one on Haitian Muti Stick-fighting. I'll post my opinions afterwords..
I know of three African MA's based on cattle fighting in Angola from a seminar Desch-Obi gave in february. One is a stick fight developed by using sticks to beat bulls over the head to keep them in line. Another is one entirely comprised of headbutting techniques, and finally one where you essentially pimp slap the pimp juice out your opponent (likewise he doing the same to you) with arm positions mimicking bull horns. Some of the headbutting techniques found their way into capoeira, and the stick fighting may have been influential in the way malta gangs in Rio fought with sticks and razors. (just a theory 2b taken with grain of salt)
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