Vendetta and JFS, HFY, et al.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 11:34am

Look, at some point, we are all hypocrites.

I respect you guys for defending JFS.

Yet, there was a mob mentality on both sides Which, I find funny now.

When Anthony and Os sat on their information, everyone flew off the handle. From KFDW to mild people like cullion, Omar, and Tomas, it was a mob that was Pro-JFS.

Now, when the info dropped and grew, it is a mob against the Pro-JFS group.

I hate the fact that this happened TCMA was earning a little respect.

We even had some TCMA posters join who would stay away from this site like the plague. Funny thing is I stopped posting on JFS threads because, as his dominance grew so did his ego.

He came in saying he was going to take over this board.
He said he would split the board down the middle.
He said mods and Admins would be fighting.

No one seems to remeber these statements. Or they do and that is what they wanted.

I do because at that point I felt he had an agenda.

Personally I think he is sitting somewhere laughing at us.

Now is this a conspiracy theory? Yes.

Any worse than a UK gentleman claiming he did the Ground Control thing on his own, Nope.

**Pandinha** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 11:35am

Originally Posted by Mr_Mantis

Omar, technically you are correct. My mind was thinking in terms of grappling only, because I think the context of the discussion was grappling ability and claims of that nature.

It is about JFS's claims of grappling prowress everywhere except here, where he would get called bullshit on.

We have posts of him boasting about filming his Grappling for Real World Streefights.

Give me a fucking break.

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 11:37am

Originally Posted by Evil Rotten Elf

So he padded his resume a little bit, so what.

This sets a great precedent. You won't mind if I tack several years of kung fu on to my training history.

**Pandinha** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 11:40am

Originally Posted by Aesopian

This sets a great precedent. You won't mind if I tack several years of kung fu on to my training history.

Why the **** not?

If Rudy can, why can't you?

**Mr. Mantis** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 11:48am

Originally Posted by Anthony

It is about JFS's claims of grappling prowress everywhere except here, where he would get called bullshit on.

We have posts of him boasting about filming his Grappling for Real World Streefights.

Give me a fucking break.

Well, the statement that no one has "fought" JFS here is true. At least, I am not aware of anyone who engaged in a full on "fight" with him.

**Cullion** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 11:49am

Originally Posted by Aesopian

This sets a great precedent. You won't mind if I tack several years of kung fu on to my training history.

If you do that, you've got to post pics of your self doing the stances. Fair?

**Firebrand** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 12:29pm

Evil Rotten Elf stated.
I

also find it funny how suckages like rayrayosridiculous and others)phrost) are not bullshido(they suck bull turds for breakfast) yet JFS is even though JFS is a way better all round fighter and an actual kung fu master to boot.

I said this before and I'll say it again. If you all think this is about JFS and not about neal's little backroom agendas then you are not too smart. I even have it under goodf authority that, in that backroom, things aren't that cosy.

It is Fake stated.

We even had some TCMA posters join who would stay away from this site like the plague. Funny thing is I stopped posting on JFS threads because, as his dominance grew so did his ego.

He came in saying he was going to take over this board.
He said he would split the board down the middle.
He said mods and Admins would be fighting.

Seems like both sides had agendas of their own. We are just along for the ride.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 12:35pm

Right, now the Pro group doen't see this and the conspiracy theories are coming out.

That is why I said we are all hypocrites at some point.

**Baator-Steel** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 12:56pm

I dont really dislike JFS-USA never really had direct dealings with him. I have read some of his posts and he seems ok at time and a bit crazy at others. I can only make one comment for sure. Thoses pics were of some sort of grappling plain and simple. Ive yet to hear anything that even atempts to say it was not. Hell at one of the kung fu forums it states what hes going to be teaching.

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John Springer Seminar on the 23/24 April in the UK

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Excuse the cross posting, was advised to post this here as not all people read the general part of the forum.

Thanks

From Tung-Fu.com

We are pleased to announce that John F Springer will
be hosting a seminar in the U.K.

The subjects to be covered are:

1. Upright striking and entanglement
2. Ground work overview.
3. Blade work and its overlap into empty hands.

This is not just a chinese martial art seminar but an
introduction to principles that feed directly into
your fighting hand independant of what your background
maybe. The seminar will be intensive, you will learn
a lot, feel free to bring a video camera for your own
personal reference. It will be conducted according to
Sifu Springers mantra of 'perfect practice'.

There will be an element of training with live blades,
attendes can bring their own blades, along with duct
tape to make the blades training safe.

Attendees are welcome to bring their significant other
to the seminar:

"It is of benefit for males to work with females as it
compels them to move with finesse - good technique as
opposed to testosterone fueled muscle.

It is good for females to work with males as it gives
them the proper feedback with regard to encountering
an aggressor having greater size - strength. It's a
"win - win" situation" - John Springer.

The dates are as follows:
April 23 / 24th

Sat April 23th.
Doors open at 13:00 , seminar is 14:00 -> 17:30

Sun April 24th.
Doors open at 9:30, seminar is 10:00 -> 16:00

Location:
35 Westgate
Bradford
BD1 2QT
www.streetmap.co.uk/stree...02&A=Y&Z=1

Lodging.
There is a Travelodge located near by. Prices start at
£26 per room.

www.travelodge.co.uk/trav...tel_id=117
www.cheaphotelbookings.com

Travel:

Car parking:
www.ncp.co.uk/ (NCP car park post code is BD1
5SD)
www.bradford.gov.uk/graph...centre.pdf

Cost:

The cost will be a flat cost of £20 per person for
each or both days.

In order for us to get an idea of names and numbers could you please email your interest to :

seminar@hotmail.co.uk

If there is anyone living in or close to london, just let us know and if there is a large genuine interest we can see about arranging transport.

I hadnt seen this posted so if already has im sorry. I noticed there was a charge for the class and it lists ground work overview as being taught.

**Pandinha** · Posted On: 2/16/2006 12:59pm

Originally Posted by Baator-Steel

I dont really dislike JFS-USA never really had direct dealings with him. I have read some of his posts and he seems ok at time and a bit crazy at others. I can only make one comment for sure. Thoses pics were of some sort of grappling plain and simple. Ive yet to hear anything that even atempts to say it was not. Hell at one of the kung fu forums it states what hes going to be teaching.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=36075

John Springer Seminar on the 23/24 April in the UK

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Excuse the cross posting, was advised to post this here as not all people read the general part of the forum.

Thanks

From Tung-Fu.com

We are pleased to announce that John F Springer will
be hosting a seminar in the U.K.

The subjects to be covered are:

1. Upright striking and entanglement
2. Ground work overview.
3. Blade work and its overlap into empty hands.

This is not just a chinese martial art seminar but an
introduction to principles that feed directly into
your fighting hand independant of what your background
maybe. The seminar will be intensive, you will learn
a lot, feel free to bring a video camera for your own
personal reference. It will be conducted according to
Sifu Springers mantra of 'perfect practice'.

There will be an element of training with live blades,
attendes can bring their own blades, along with duct
tape to make the blades training safe.

Attendees are welcome to bring their significant other
to the seminar:

"It is of benefit for males to work with females as it
compels them to move with finesse - good technique as
opposed to testosterone fueled muscle.

It is good for females to work with males as it gives
them the proper feedback with regard to encountering
an aggressor having greater size - strength. It's a
"win - win" situation" - John Springer.

The dates are as follows:
April 23 / 24th

Sat April 23th.
Doors open at 13:00 , seminar is 14:00 -> 17:30

Sun April 24th.
Doors open at 9:30, seminar is 10:00 -> 16:00

Location:
35 Westgate
Bradford
BD1 2QT
www.streetmap.co.uk/stree...02&A=Y&Z=1

Lodging.
There is a Travelodge located near by. Prices start at
£26 per room.

www.travelodge.co.uk/trav...tel_id=117
www.cheaphotelbookings.com

Travel:

Car parking:
www.ncp.co.uk/ (NCP car park post code is BD1
5SD)
www.bradford.gov.uk/graph...centre.pdf

Cost:

The cost will be a flat cost of £20 per person for
each or both days.

In order for us to get an idea of names and numbers could you please email your interest to :

seminar@hotmail.co.uk

If there is anyone living in or close to london, just let us know and if there is a large genuine interest we can see about arranging transport.

I hadnt seen this posted so if already has im sorry. I noticed there was a charge for the class and it lists ground work overview as being taught.

I posted this already,but I do thank you for coming in cold of the whole situation and seeing the bullshit teachings right off the bat.