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View Poll Results: Do the ulterior motives of the poster affect the validity of bullshido claim(s)?

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  • No, it makes no difference.

    14 12.61%
  • No, but they sure could be a lot more polite.

    5 4.50%
  • No, but their posts require a tiny bit more scrutiny.

    10 9.01%
  • No, but their posts require A LOT more scrutiny.

    36 32.43%
  • Maybe, I mean if the poster is really a horse's ass or something.

    12 10.81%
  • Probably. All vendettas are automatically viewed suspicsiously

    25 22.52%
  • Yes, it invalids most everything a poster says.

    4 3.60%
  • All of the above.

    3 2.70%
  • None of the above.

    3 2.70%
  • The Seahawks were robbed. :smile:

    24 21.62%
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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Look, at some point, we are all hypocrites.

    I respect you guys for defending JFS.

    Yet, there was a mob mentality on both sides Which, I find funny now.

    When Anthony and Os sat on their information, everyone flew off the handle. From KFDW to mild people like cullion, Omar, and Tomas, it was a mob that was Pro-JFS.

    Now, when the info dropped and grew, it is a mob against the Pro-JFS group.

    I hate the fact that this happened TCMA was earning a little respect.

    We even had some TCMA posters join who would stay away from this site like the plague. Funny thing is I stopped posting on JFS threads because, as his dominance grew so did his ego.

    He came in saying he was going to take over this board.
    He said he would split the board down the middle.
    He said mods and Admins would be fighting.

    No one seems to remeber these statements. Or they do and that is what they wanted.

    I do because at that point I felt he had an agenda.


    Personally I think he is sitting somewhere laughing at us.

    Now is this a conspiracy theory? Yes.

    Any worse than a UK gentleman claiming he did the Ground Control thing on his own, Nope.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 2/16/2006 12:37pm at .
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Mantis
    Omar, technically you are correct. My mind was thinking in terms of grappling only, because I think the context of the discussion was grappling ability and claims of that nature.
    It is about JFS's claims of grappling prowress everywhere except here, where he would get called bullshit on.

    We have posts of him boasting about filming his Grappling for Real World Streefights.

    Give me a fucking break.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Rotten Elf
    So he padded his resume a little bit, so what.
    This sets a great precedent. You won't mind if I tack several years of kung fu on to my training history.
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    Posted On:
    2/16/2006 12:40pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    This sets a great precedent. You won't mind if I tack several years of kung fu on to my training history.
    Why the **** not?

    If Rudy can, why can't you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    It is about JFS's claims of grappling prowress everywhere except here, where he would get called bullshit on.

    We have posts of him boasting about filming his Grappling for Real World Streefights.

    Give me a fucking break.
    Well, the statement that no one has "fought" JFS here is true. At least, I am not aware of anyone who engaged in a full on "fight" with him.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    This sets a great precedent. You won't mind if I tack several years of kung fu on to my training history.
    If you do that, you've got to post pics of your self doing the stances. Fair?
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Evil Rotten Elf stated.
    I
    also find it funny how suckages like rayrayosridiculous and others)phrost) are not bullshido(they suck bull turds for breakfast) yet JFS is even though JFS is a way better all round fighter and an actual kung fu master to boot.

    I said this before and I'll say it again. If you all think this is about JFS and not about neal's little backroom agendas then you are not too smart. I even have it under goodf authority that, in that backroom, things aren't that cosy.
    It is Fake stated.
    We even had some TCMA posters join who would stay away from this site like the plague. Funny thing is I stopped posting on JFS threads because, as his dominance grew so did his ego.

    He came in saying he was going to take over this board.
    He said he would split the board down the middle.
    He said mods and Admins would be fighting.
    Seems like both sides had agendas of their own. We are just along for the ride.
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Right, now the Pro group doen't see this and the conspiracy theories are coming out.

    That is why I said we are all hypocrites at some point.
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    Posted On:
    2/16/2006 1:56pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I dont really dislike JFS-USA never really had direct dealings with him. I have read some of his posts and he seems ok at time and a bit crazy at others. I can only make one comment for sure. Thoses pics were of some sort of grappling plain and simple. Ive yet to hear anything that even atempts to say it was not. Hell at one of the kung fu forums it states what hes going to be teaching.

    http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=36075

    John Springer Seminar on the 23/24 April in the UK

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Excuse the cross posting, was advised to post this here as not all people read the general part of the forum.

    Thanks

    From Tung-Fu.com

    We are pleased to announce that John F Springer will
    be hosting a seminar in the U.K.

    The subjects to be covered are:

    1. Upright striking and entanglement
    2. Ground work overview.
    3. Blade work and its overlap into empty hands.


    This is not just a chinese martial art seminar but an
    introduction to principles that feed directly into
    your fighting hand independant of what your background
    maybe. The seminar will be intensive, you will learn
    a lot, feel free to bring a video camera for your own
    personal reference. It will be conducted according to
    Sifu Springers mantra of 'perfect practice'.

    There will be an element of training with live blades,
    attendes can bring their own blades, along with duct
    tape to make the blades training safe.

    Attendees are welcome to bring their significant other
    to the seminar:

    "It is of benefit for males to work with females as it
    compels them to move with finesse - good technique as
    opposed to testosterone fueled muscle.

    It is good for females to work with males as it gives
    them the proper feedback with regard to encountering
    an aggressor having greater size - strength. It's a
    "win - win" situation" - John Springer.

    The dates are as follows:
    April 23 / 24th

    Sat April 23th.
    Doors open at 13:00 , seminar is 14:00 -> 17:30

    Sun April 24th.
    Doors open at 9:30, seminar is 10:00 -> 16:00

    Location:
    35 Westgate
    Bradford
    BD1 2QT
    www.streetmap.co.uk/stree...02&A=Y&Z=1

    Lodging.
    There is a Travelodge located near by. Prices start at
    £26 per room.

    www.travelodge.co.uk/trav...tel_id=117
    www.cheaphotelbookings.com

    Travel:

    Car parking:
    www.ncp.co.uk/ (NCP car park post code is BD1
    5SD)
    www.bradford.gov.uk/graph...centre.pdf


    Cost:

    The cost will be a flat cost of £20 per person for
    each or both days.

    In order for us to get an idea of names and numbers could you please email your interest to :

    seminar@hotmail.co.uk

    If there is anyone living in or close to london, just let us know and if there is a large genuine interest we can see about arranging transport.



    I hadnt seen this posted so if already has im sorry. I noticed there was a charge for the class and it lists ground work overview as being taught.
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    Posted On:
    2/16/2006 1:59pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baator-Steel
    I dont really dislike JFS-USA never really had direct dealings with him. I have read some of his posts and he seems ok at time and a bit crazy at others. I can only make one comment for sure. Thoses pics were of some sort of grappling plain and simple. Ive yet to hear anything that even atempts to say it was not. Hell at one of the kung fu forums it states what hes going to be teaching.

    http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=36075

    John Springer Seminar on the 23/24 April in the UK

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Excuse the cross posting, was advised to post this here as not all people read the general part of the forum.

    Thanks

    From Tung-Fu.com

    We are pleased to announce that John F Springer will
    be hosting a seminar in the U.K.

    The subjects to be covered are:

    1. Upright striking and entanglement
    2. Ground work overview.
    3. Blade work and its overlap into empty hands.


    This is not just a chinese martial art seminar but an
    introduction to principles that feed directly into
    your fighting hand independant of what your background
    maybe. The seminar will be intensive, you will learn
    a lot, feel free to bring a video camera for your own
    personal reference. It will be conducted according to
    Sifu Springers mantra of 'perfect practice'.

    There will be an element of training with live blades,
    attendes can bring their own blades, along with duct
    tape to make the blades training safe.

    Attendees are welcome to bring their significant other
    to the seminar:

    "It is of benefit for males to work with females as it
    compels them to move with finesse - good technique as
    opposed to testosterone fueled muscle.

    It is good for females to work with males as it gives
    them the proper feedback with regard to encountering
    an aggressor having greater size - strength. It's a
    "win - win" situation" - John Springer.

    The dates are as follows:
    April 23 / 24th

    Sat April 23th.
    Doors open at 13:00 , seminar is 14:00 -> 17:30

    Sun April 24th.
    Doors open at 9:30, seminar is 10:00 -> 16:00

    Location:
    35 Westgate
    Bradford
    BD1 2QT
    www.streetmap.co.uk/stree...02&A=Y&Z=1

    Lodging.
    There is a Travelodge located near by. Prices start at
    £26 per room.

    www.travelodge.co.uk/trav...tel_id=117
    www.cheaphotelbookings.com

    Travel:

    Car parking:
    www.ncp.co.uk/ (NCP car park post code is BD1
    5SD)
    www.bradford.gov.uk/graph...centre.pdf


    Cost:

    The cost will be a flat cost of £20 per person for
    each or both days.

    In order for us to get an idea of names and numbers could you please email your interest to :

    seminar@hotmail.co.uk

    If there is anyone living in or close to london, just let us know and if there is a large genuine interest we can see about arranging transport.



    I hadnt seen this posted so if already has im sorry. I noticed there was a charge for the class and it lists ground work overview as being taught.
    I posted this already,but I do thank you for coming in cold of the whole situation and seeing the bullshit teachings right off the bat.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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